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Timber Frame Cabin Build
« on: April 30, 2018, 09:21:21 PM »
Hello, I am finally moving ahead with this project. Will be posting progress in this thread for anyone who might be interested.

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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2018, 10:01:53 PM »
Here are photos up until now. Received the logs about a month ago and waxed them up with Lee Valley Log Sealer. They are mostly EWP with some Red Pine mixed in for spares and non-critical members.

Last photo is where the cabin will be raised.



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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2018, 09:35:09 PM »
Finally started milling. Almost halfway done. I am getting some nice clear beams but also some pretty knotty stuff as well. I'll be using the knotty stuff for posts and clear for rafters, plates and ties. Weather went from 31C for first two days then to 6C. At least no flies at 6C ;D.



 


 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2018, 10:30:22 PM »
Nice looking whack! I'm excited to see this project. As far as the temperature goes: you can always put more layers on, but you can only take so many off.  :D

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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2018, 11:04:53 PM »
 8)
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Just for size idea, are those timbers in the last picture 8x8s in the middle and 6x8s up front?
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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2018, 11:09:46 PM »
Hi John,

Yes, those are 8x8's in the middle. The nearest stack has rows of 5x7's and 4x6's.


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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2018, 11:25:51 PM »
I went back and looked again at your pics.  You've really maxed out your cuts on those logs!  Were you getting two 8x8s out of a log?  It looks like you were splitting the pith on them :-X
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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 06:27:04 AM »
Flyingparks - exactly, prefer working in cool weather!

John - that last log was quartered into 4 - 9x9's. So I got 2 - 8x8's and 4 - 4x6's. I could have pulled out 5x7s instead but wood wasnt clear enough for rafters.

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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2018, 06:52:49 AM »
Hi Tim,

   I am very interested in your project! You are doing what many of us wish to be doing. Do you have a cabin design finalized yet?

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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 11:02:20 AM »
Hi Sterling, thanks. I do have a finalized design (almost done). 16'x20'
 

 

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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2018, 08:55:36 AM »
Tim,

   I am currently building the same Sobon frame, but in a 16x26 format. It is not going to be insulated, but other than that it is pretty much the same building, which is why I am so interested. I am still debating a few finish details, and am wondering what you have in mind for yours.

   What are you doing for window and door framing? For a frame like this, how important is the window and door framing? Specifically, should this be mortised and tenoned into the main frame? (The same question applies for the nailers). I currently have in mind to use 4x4s that are mortised and tenoned, but it seems that this might be overkill.

   I have found all kinds of good information readily available for building the frame, but when it comes to closing it in, there seems to be many options, which can be very confusing.

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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2018, 07:44:29 PM »

Days 5 and 6 of milling. 



 






Nice clear (almost) 8x10x16 tie beam in the making 



This one was wicked. Ended up taking it off the mill. Might cut into two 8ft pieces and cut boards out of it... 

 

 

Slab pile is getting bigger. One more white pine beam, then onto the red pine for boards and 2 by's.

 

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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2018, 07:51:05 PM »
Sterling,

This is a modified Sobon design. I guess the only real difference is going with housed bird's mouth rafters instead of step lapped. Hoping this will save me some time.

I will be enclosing with wrap and strap - check out Brian Weekley's post on this forum for his barn build. Very similar. I will have mortise/tenon for one girt per wall, but for the rest, I will probably just make housings and screw the girts into the posts from the outside. Similar to this but with housings and larger girts: https://www.facebook.com/shelterbuild/photos/a.10152637194290696.1073741825.189436415695/10159318420890696/?type=3&theater 

Tim


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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2018, 04:52:01 PM »
Milling, Day 7. Finished all the white pine. 

Last 8x10x16


 

Ended up cutting the crooked 16' and 12' logs into 8' pieces. We quartered them and made some 2 by's for loft decking.


 

 

 

Only red pine left...and it is small. Will make a few spare beams and the rest into boards. One more day of sawing, then onto cutting joints!

 

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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 07:32:15 AM »
You are making great progress!

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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2018, 10:42:55 PM »
Really enjoy your progress and looking forward to more postings. Keep up the good work.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2018, 09:31:06 PM »
Thanks guys  :)

Finally done milling.

Day 8 - finishing red pine into extra beams and rest into boards.

Found a few nests in the wood pile.


 


Trees are keeping the stacks mostly in the shade for a good part of the day. Still need to get them covered though.





These smaller logs were so much easier to handle!





Final results:

 

 

 

 

 

 

More slab wood than I know what to do with! And all the green bark is attracting too many bugs and borers for my liking.



 

Hopefully I will get all my cut sheets ready before the weekend and I can start planning my cutting plan.

Not sure if I should start with the smaller members (rafters, joists, braces) or with the bigger ones (tie beams, posts and plates). I'd prefer having my learning curve on the smaller stuff, but not sure if it will have a chance to move too much before assembly. I don't think I can cut the whole frame in less than 6 months.

Any thoughts on what to tackle first? I have a few extras for almost all the members.

Thanks,
Tim 

P.S: found a photo from one of the bigger logs we milled. This is a 16' EWP.





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Re: Timber Frame Cabin Build
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2018, 10:46:57 PM »
Looking great, Tim! You'll be surprised how much you can cut once you get a rhythm going. The posts are probably going to be your most time consuming. If it were me, I would start with the sills to get your feet wet. Then, I would do a bent at a time. That way you don't get too ahead of yourself. Cut the posts, then the beam. I would definitely make a template for your braces and cut those all at once. Then the rafters. Just my advice. Also, take your sweet time and double check measurements. Especially on your first members. 

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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2018, 07:28:14 AM »
Wow!  It looks like your off to an excellent start Tim!  Those are some beautiful timbers you have there.  Good luck with the project and thanks for posting photos along the way.   smiley_thumbsup
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2018, 10:21:00 AM »
Thanks for the encouragement :) 

Got some old pallets (free!) and two cheap 15'x20' tarps that I ripped up to make these fork friendly removable stack covers. It was time for this. Only 2-3 weeks in partial sun and already getting surface checking...hope this will reduce it.




 

 

 

 

 


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