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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2018, 09:06:26 AM »
Ah, I wrongly assumed you just threw a bolt in. Did you select a long bolt to get enough shank to go through the whole axle holder and cut off the extra thread?
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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2018, 11:39:28 AM »
I need the pawl repair too.  Mine slips if I try to go too fast or if sawdust has collected in the teeth.  BTW, I have been looking for another mill for the carriage parts to extend mine.  Otherwise I may build one.  
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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2018, 08:06:48 PM »
Ya we were looking for whatever would be the easiest to switch out down the road with the lowest downtime. We did use longer bolts and trimmed the threads back.

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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2018, 09:39:12 PM »
When I had a Bellsaw I put the reach rod in a 't' tube so you could twist it and rigged up a toggle and lever to the pawl. This rig is still working to day. It was just a bunch of junk brazed together and the pawl lasted much longer.

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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2018, 08:22:22 AM »
That's an interesting idea. What do you attribute the longer wear to? Were you turning the handle to disengage the pawl on the return strokes so it wasn't dragging on the ratchet wheel? Any pics?
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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2018, 01:06:26 PM »
Glendalerl, yes, lifting the pawl at times.  Also put the feed outboard. There has to be a way to make a better setworks, ofte tthought about doing something with a large rachet  wrench.

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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2018, 01:41:40 PM »
That pawl is a wear item we should probably team up and have a run of them made. I have I think 3, the one on the mill is about ready to be welded and ground, If I hold my mouth just right it grabs most of the time, the other two have been welded once and then worn down again.
x2. Mine is pretty rounded too. Add me to the order!
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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2019, 07:52:17 PM »
10 month time gap but there's more progress lately, gathering some momentum. After thinking long and hard about my plans, I changed from the 10 ft carriage, 30 ft bed with six legs to saw 14 ft lumber to the standard 6 ft carriage, 18 ft bed with 4 legs to saw 10ft lumber. Less material, less hardware, less walking, smaller footprint, smaller building, and the only time I've needed longer than 10ft lumber was to build this sawmill. More progress to come very soon.


 
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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2019, 02:10:14 AM »
Thanks for returning, was wondering about your progress.  Your frame looks good.  I think you made the right decision for keeping your mill that size.  My M-24 has a 16 carriage, 3 headblocks  and it came with a 48" blade.  Its just a hobby mill for me, thank goodness, and I thought it would handle bigger logs than it can.  I can't imagine what the engineers at Belsaw were thinking.  Sixteen feet of extremely light carriage, a 1.75" arbor, a 48" saw, a 6" flat belt for prime power.  Let's get real.  But anyway, I am learning a lot and I think I can make my mill meet my meager needs.  Keep us posted on your progress, you have a real old timer there and your work is beautiful.

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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2019, 03:28:22 PM »
very interested keep up the pics

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« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2019, 03:47:42 PM »
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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2019, 07:05:37 PM »
Watch out for the set wheel getting loose on the shaft. Back before lock tite  I slit mine and welded steel bars in the spoke area, drilled and thru bolted to shrink on shaft like a john deere 2 cyl. Still tight to this day.

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« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2019, 09:05:26 PM »
I think half the circle sawyers in this country got their start on Belsaws. Two of my friends ran Belsaws and I learned to run a mill with their instructions. Frank C.
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« Reply #33 on: April 04, 2019, 10:35:57 AM »
Thanks guys, the carriage is on the second floor of my shop and the lighting is terrible but here it is. Needs some more paint but 90% done.


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« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2019, 11:43:08 AM »
looking good it will be well worth the effort

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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2019, 12:29:34 PM »
Needs some more paint but 90% done.
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« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2019, 01:49:14 PM »
Ford red actually.

End plates and top plates on, arbor notches cut, feed works sitting near where they'll be.


 


 
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Re: Belsaw build
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2019, 07:21:07 PM »
You are doing a beautiful job but are you going to use those plain bearings? I hope not.

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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2019, 04:02:59 AM »
You are doing a beautiful job but are you going to use those plain bearings? I hope not.
I sure am.
Gotta use whatever time you can find so I picked up an LED tripod work light, 8400 lumens. Got the carriage bolts into the legs through the beams so the structure is officially done. Bringing the arbor to work with me to move the pulley in my press to line up with the tensioner properly. Hoping to have arbor, feedworks and tensioner mounted up this weekend.


 
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« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2019, 06:46:48 AM »
Glen, I hope in your country you can still get creosote or other effective wood protector, that frame is just too pretty to succumb to the ravages of rot. The later B'saws used flange type pillow block bearings that were a big improvement over the Babbitt, you could retrofit if need be. Frank C.
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