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Re: Road legal Pick-Up Truck size log trailer
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2018, 12:19:52 AM »
The big goose necks trailers, that i see on American programs. Do these carry much? You need a cdl licence ?


More and more jurisdictions are enforcing the 10k trailer CDL-A requirement.  And there are many many conflicting regulations, its hard to stay on top of all of them and impossible to get them applied uniformly.  That they conflict or that the book says you are right and the officer is wrong does not prevent tickets or get them reduced or dismissed in my experience.  
Goosenecks are usually electric brake trailers and most of the time dual tandems are a pair of 10k axles.. They do make 12k but theyre rare and spendy but gaining ground.  So your big 8 tire gooseneck is generally 20 to 24k in axle capacity.  Subtract the weight of the frame over it to get payload.  3axle duals exist but would be very rare.  That size load youre just better of getting a real semi tractor and flatbed with 11R's on it and air brakes. 
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2018, 12:26:01 AM »
They work great as long as you have farm plates and a large enough truck say a kodiak or top kick 4500 plus hat has the brakes and tires to match the trailer. I’ve ran over the scales at 35k and just waved at the scale master before with fertilizer. Our trailer is a tandem duals with the 12k axles.

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« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2018, 12:31:05 AM »
I had 22,500 on my 14k 4 wheeler goose.  

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Re: Road legal Pick-Up Truck size log trailer
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2018, 01:06:18 AM »
Thanks guys. 

When you say, 10k, 12k, 35k, that's thousands of pounds?  In France, i have a weird licence. Road legal, with whatever weight i want, as long as the towing vehicule is legal with that weight. But the towing vehicule should not exceed 3.5 metric tons. There isn't many left, besides farm tractors.  
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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2018, 01:25:16 AM »
I have a 18K Camper I pull with my one ton. Most 5th wheel campers there over 10K.
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Re: Road legal Pick-Up Truck size log trailer
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2018, 01:31:04 AM »
Yes, 10k =10,000.

If a trailer has a pair of 8k [each] axles, itll usually be about a 14k rated trailer because the framework consumes a portion of the axle capacity.  All our components have mfr rating tags.
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2018, 02:25:48 AM »
What I'm saying is most all 5th wheel campers are over 10K. I know the people don't have class A CDL that own them. Mine the GVR is 18K. Why dont everyone have to have class A to pull one of them? 
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2018, 07:50:20 AM »
The class A requirement is that the trailer is 10,000 or more lbs, rating, AND the combination weight of the tow vehicle and trailer is 26,001 or more lbs. Even a dually with a big 5th wheel is almost always under that, not by much, as the new ones are getting bigger, thus the non CDL-A requirement. 
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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2018, 08:03:35 AM »
Rec stuff can throw CDL stuff out the window in a hurry look at the big diesel pusher motorhomes if grandpa or great grandpa needed a CDL I dont think youd see one. Heres one for you air brakes under 26k CDL or not? From memory its a CDL with an air endorsement all those big buses have air brakes.

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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2018, 08:40:53 AM »
If the motor home exceeds 26,001 lbs then a CDL-B becomes necessary, what do you want to bet those are tagged for 25,999.  You can get an air brake endorsement for a "regular" drivers license.  
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Re: Road legal Pick-Up Truck size log trailer
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2018, 10:58:03 AM »
You don't need a commercial license for rv's. I know someone who had a 33k International box trick with a jet dragster and a bed in the back on rv plates. An Ohio state cop pulled him over at 4:00 am. When the Mass registry opened they said let him go, it's legit. 

Technically, a commercial license isn't required until the weight exceeds 26k, either single or combination. Some states have weird rules, and even the cops don't always know what they are talking about. 
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