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Walnut or walnot?
« on: July 09, 2018, 08:53:21 PM »
Is this an English walnut. Neighbor came over and say a he's got this really big nice walnut tree he just wants gone.  So I goes over and take a look. It's not the walnut that I'm familiar with but it sure does have walnuts growing on it. Is it worth cutting?  It's not that big and doesn't look worth the time to me. Also he's talking to me like he is doing me a huge favor by letting me cut this tree and clean up the mess. I think he's going to have to pay someone to be rid of it.

 

 

  
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 09:18:33 PM »
I say do it!!!
Than when someone offers you another yard tree to  cut down   clean up you will say no. ;D 
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2018, 07:38:28 AM »
I would not do it.
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 07:58:34 AM »
Wdh, thecfarm.  What kind of walnut is it? Will it have the same or similar wood to the walnut I'm used to seeing?
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2018, 01:39:15 PM »
There is a walnut tree about 5 minutes from where I live. That is all I know about walnut.  ;D  But I do know it takes A LOT of time to clean up a tree. And I have only done it in the woods,not on a lawn.
From what I have seen posted on here about yard trees,cut it down,clean it up,but the tree owner expects it to look like it was never cut. And they want it done for nothing because the tree is worth a lot of money.  ::)
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2018, 02:04:52 PM »
Nothing from those images says "walnut" to me.

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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2018, 02:08:55 PM »
Some kind of hickory
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2018, 04:37:07 PM »
Outside of my area, but I'm going to guess Butternut.  Related to Black Walnut.
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2018, 04:57:59 PM »
The leaves and bark look like what Google shows as English walnut to me.  The nuts look like walnut when I cut it open. It smells like walnut. I don't know what butternut looks like.

 
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2018, 05:12:00 PM »
If you google images of English walnut, they look just like that.....leaves and the nuts.  Id say offer to cut it down, take away the big parts and stack the rest for him.  I will not take away a whole tree for free, no matter how valuable the lumber may be.  Too much work for me.
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2018, 08:11:40 PM »
Looks like english walnut grafted to black walnut root stock.  You can see the graft near the base of the trunk.

English walnut has a terminal leaflet.  The leaf in the pic has a terminal leaflet.  Black walnut does not have a terminal leaflet.  The terminal leaflet aborts soon after the leaf opens from the bud. 

Note from the pic of english walnut in this link that the leaf has a terminal leaflet.
Virginia Tech Dendrology Fact Sheet

Note from the pic of american black walnut that the terminal leaflet is missing.
Virginia Tech Dendrology Fact Sheet

Butternut also has a terminal leaflet.
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 08:30:55 AM »
   Also the butternut nuts would not be smooth. Mine are all wrinkled (But that is becoming a problem with more than my yard trees :D).
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2018, 08:55:51 AM »
I agree with Danny, especially seeing the new picture showing the graft.  

FYI, getting the graft section could yield some interesting contrast.
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2018, 09:28:35 PM »
I wish I had some English walnut. That's one of my favorite nuts to eat. Instead, I have a bunch of black walnut. The nuts are too strong for my tastes, and miserable to get open. I let the squirrels have them all.

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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2018, 06:02:29 AM »
 . I let the squirrels have them all.
Squirrels it seems are natures little tree planters .Although it's been said they remember where they hid 90 percent of the nuts a few sprout .Like in my raised bed garden and flower plots .For some reason a hickory growing with my tomatoes seems out of place .

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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2018, 07:32:36 AM »
A very simple math to know if it's worth cuting a tree near houses: take what's a specialized company will charge to cut it and substract the price of the wood on the market. EX: if somebody charge $1000 to remove the tree  and the tree worth $600 you are $400 out of budget! You have to take in account that removing a tree around houses is a very risky business ;  is it your expertise ? do you have the proper equipment ?is the stump has to be remove? May be you are better off to let the neighbour take care of putting the tree down, you buy the logs and he clean up the branches.

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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2018, 08:45:27 AM »
That's the thing. 

Do you do a ~$1000 tree removal / tidy up, for a ~$200 log. 

Now I've cut down trees for a friend in return for the wood. But it wasn't a technical removal or a manicured lawn, and she let's me use her 60hp Kubota. Brush into a pile to burn, limbs lopped into firewood that I can sell, and I get the sawlogs.

I'd be hesitant about doing a "free" tree removal if there is a lot of work involved, or ANY hazards. 

Maybe tell him to get a tree service to just lay the tree down, which is the risky part. Then you will help him clean up the mess and take the log. A couple of low risk hours limbing and dragging brush for a $200 log isn't such a bad deal. 
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2018, 11:22:49 AM »
He ended up calling me back and said to cut what I wanted and leave the mess. I was in and out of there in an hour and a half. Most of that time was spent chatting with him. It took me longer to unload and load the bobcat than the work did.  Cut it most the way through and pushed it over with the bobcat. Cut it 17ft long just above the crotch and loaded it up. Easy peasy 
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Re: Walnut or walnot?
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2018, 11:28:56 AM »
 

 

 

 
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