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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2018, 07:29:16 PM »
One thing about the harbor  freight winches that I checked out and I have the 3500 unit is they only have a 15% duty cycle at full load which translates to only 9 minutes of hard use per hour. Mine seems to work great but I do keep a check on the motor temperature. 

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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2018, 07:45:16 PM »
Thanks Jack.  I read that too.  I think thatll be fine for me as I will usually only be picking up one or two logs at a time.
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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2018, 09:49:37 PM »
Keep the freewheel/disengage lever lubed.  Underneath it is a spring and detent ball.  If it rusts, no detent.  So when the winch jumps out of engage under load a chunk breaks off into the planetary.

Tractor trailer repair shops throw out 11" airbags that still work pretty often.  Not much that they wont cushion.
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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2018, 10:33:25 PM »
Looks like the DanG Deadheader loglifter - except yours is made out of wood. Search on that term here and you'll find some pictures of them in use. One of them used check chains tied to the rear of the trailer to keep the arch from flopping all the way over. Quick, simple, cheap.
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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2018, 07:30:01 AM »
yea. you definitely do not want to use the fenders. It may be ok the first couple, but eventually they will start to deform.

If I didn't have so many other projects going on I would be rigging something up just like I explained. I have had plenty of times I have used a hi lift and my 5x8 trailer picking up logs that were offered to me.

I still have 24' long trunk that is about 22" diameter of black walnut I need to go rescue from my buddies driveway. Thats going to be fun to load on the trailer. especially by hand.

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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2018, 08:21:43 AM »
Ill check out the DanG.

Crusarius, I wouldnt load that 24 log in that 5x8 trailer.



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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2018, 08:24:57 AM »
yea, definitely not. planning on 3 pieces.

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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2018, 08:51:54 AM »
Cru,

 I have a 5X8 trailer and have loaded 8-10 ft logs like you describe by hooking a cable around one end of the log, hook a snatch block to the front of the trailer in a secure spot, run the cable through the block and secure the other end to a tree or stump (a heavy piece of equipment would work if that is all that is handy) behind the logs, leave the tailgate down and slowly drive forward and the logs will slide right in to the trailer. Be sure to stop as soon it reaches the end of the trailer or you will bend something (Don't ask me how I know that). If you have a helper he can help roll the log from side to side to make sure it doesn't hang on the lip of the trailer and make sure you don't try to pull too far.

   Cutting off and using a straight limb or two for rollers will help too.
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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2018, 09:11:02 AM »
That is exactly how I did it on the last log I loaded. it was actually easier because it was the 2nd layer on the trailer. Wood slides better on wood than on the angle iron edge

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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2018, 02:50:56 PM »
are you just grabbing the log on the frame then using the winch to pull the frame?

Doesn't the frame slam to the bed like that?
You would think so but the weight of the log you're pulling keeps the arch from slamming into the trailers floor.

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2018, 03:08:49 PM »
Right.  I never want to lift the whole log, just one end.  Though even the smaller diameter logs will fall down from the weight of the A frame.  On the small logs I will lower the log to the bed with the chain hoist and slide the log directly with the winch.
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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2018, 11:23:46 AM »
That right there is an awesome build and great proof of concept! Thanks for sharing. I feel my days of handyman jacking and wrestling by hand may be soon coming to a close. The other day I loaded 1110 bd ft in 2 redwood logs a 16 and a 20. That was a lot of work for one guy. An arch like yours would have made it a cakewalk!
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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2018, 11:55:57 AM »
How did you attach the legs to the tralier?
Make it work, use what you have.

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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2018, 11:11:16 PM »
Thanks Murdock.  I plan to load a couple 20 foot logs soon, one of them being 24 diameter.  Ill let you know how that goes.

The A frame is attached to the trailer with 4x4s that I notched to fit into stake pockets.  A 7/8 bolt is the hinge pin.  I will eventually be fabricating a steel piece to take the place of the wood in the stake pocket.  I feel that piece is my weak link.  For now it is working fine.
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Re: Log Loading Arch out of timbers.
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2018, 12:31:11 AM »
Thanks Murdock.  I plan to load a couple 20 foot logs soon, one of them being 24 diameter.  Ill let you know how that goes.

The A frame is attached to the trailer with 4x4s that I notched to fit into stake pockets.  A 7/8 bolt is the hinge pin.  I will eventually be fabricating a steel piece to take the place of the wood in the stake pocket.  I feel that piece is my weak link.  For now it is working fine.


When you get some time will you post close pictures of how you attached it to the trailer please ?

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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2018, 07:59:30 AM »
I made these out of some pieces of 6x6 that I had so that they would fit tight in the stake pocket.  I am going to replace with some sort of steel piece in the future.  The steel piece will be very similar, but I wont leave all the extra thickness above the pocket.  My bolts are kind of short as it is.  There is a 7/8 bolt as the hinge pin going thru the leg.  


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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2018, 09:10:30 AM »
Here's a photo sequence of DanG's log lifter in use. You can also see the check chains he uses to keep the arch from flopping too far down out of the trailer. There are some helpful other comments elsewhere in this same thread. Somewhere here on FF I saw a photo of someone who had put the hinge of the arch a foot or so forward of the back of the trailer, and used check chains attached to the rear of the trailer to keep the arch from flopping all the way down into the trailer (unfortunately, I can't find that now).

Here is another thread with info on a log lifter made by @getoverit using design ideas from @DanG and @Fla._Deadheader .  If you scroll down a bit, you can see details of his hinge design, which drops into stake pockets on the rear edge of his trailer.
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2018, 01:03:09 PM »
Thanks John.  Ive already planned to use chains hooked to the farthest back stake pockets.  I put my loader on the second set from the back.  I will check out the video.
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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2018, 01:09:09 PM »
Thanks John.  Ive already planned to use chains hooked to the farthest back stake pockets.  I put my loader on the second set from the back.  I will check out the video.
I never did find the video, just some photos. Let me know if you come across it. If you don't find one, please consider posting one of yours in action. I've tried to describe this to some folks I cut firewood with, and my description leaves a bit to be desired.
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2018, 08:40:40 PM »
I made these out of some pieces of 6x6 that I had so that they would fit tight in the stake pocket.  I am going to replace with some sort of steel piece in the future.  The steel piece will be very similar, but I wont leave all the extra thickness above the pocket.  My bolts are kind of short as it is.  There is a 7/8 bolt as the hinge pin going thru the leg.  

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Thanks a lot!

I'll probably end up sending you a message for more information

I'm having some red elm milled soon.

I'm leaning towards having (2) 5x5's milled out of one of the logs to build this arch.

A local welding shop wants over 300.00 to weld an arch.

This route would be MUCH cheaper.
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