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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 07:15:00 PM »
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 07:56:43 PM »
They did it quick.  The trail camera pictures show that there was grass on the 12th and gone on the 17th.  :-\

Thankfully both the Strawfield and the Back plots naturally have a good stand of Fescue which will serve until whatever else may still come up.  I may hand seed Rye which will sprout without being tilled/covered.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 08:31:07 PM »
Can you get some crimson clover and toss that in too?  
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2018, 09:19:15 PM »
Probably but it would not come up until Spring.
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2018, 09:55:26 PM »
Around here if I plant Crimson until early October it will come up the same year, and leaf out, then come spring it will take off.  
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2018, 10:35:42 PM »
Didn't know that.  It's amazing what you can learn here on the FF that has nothing to do with forests.  I'll throw some in my mix next year.  ;D

Bad thing about Army Worms is that you are not safe until the first killing frost and for us that might not happen until December.   :-\
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2018, 07:37:39 PM »
I went to the Cabin today and broadcast another 150 lbs of Ammonia on the two food plots.  There is still some late germinating happening plus the worms did not get everything.  I believe that the partially salvaged plots plus the Fescue will still be enough draw for the deer.  The plots are in a bottom bordering the creek and has always been an evening gathering place anyway.

Our rifle season opens on Nov, 17th and continues through January 31st.  The rifle bag limit is 3 bucks (10" inside spread or 13" main beam) and three does.  I have a self imposed limit and have not killed 3 bucks since the 1996-97 season.  I doubt that I have ever killed 3 does during any season year.  I just love to go and sit.



 
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2018, 07:47:47 PM »
I like that minimum size requirement.  It sure would help around here, hardly anything makes it past 2.5 years old, 150 lbs live weigh is considered big, we could have some really nice deer in these parts with a little more management and a little less "if it's brown it's down" approach.  
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2018, 02:21:30 PM »
Polk County, Texas.  We catch these on well fertilized pasture and game management areas that feed minerals year round.



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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2018, 03:39:11 PM »
 

 
I got his brother last year.  :o   :D
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2018, 08:50:26 AM »
Too bad about the food plot.  Whats the ammonia supposed to do?  


Im curious, would it not be better to turn the initial grass under with a light rototil for soil building?  Thats a lot of free nitrogen.  Or maybe roll crimp it and seed into it as a cover crop?  That bare dirt dries out real fast and growth rates get stunted for lack of moisture retention.  


I dont know if deer like it but my collards and buttercrunch lettuce took right off when the temps dropped, still growing fine.  Im told turnip and potato greens is the magic deer crop.   Next year. 
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2018, 11:09:12 AM »
I've shot plenty of both, but prefer a doe for the best eating. I'm not into looking for a big rack, but I will shoot one if I get a chance. 3 years ago, my grandson shot a 7 point buck from my shooting house in the blueberries. It weighed 235# hanging weight. That is unusual for around here. The heaviest buck I ever got was only 185# and I actually got 1 doe that was 175#, most are 120-150 and most busks here are 135-160. We have no minimum size for bucks, thus most shot are 1.5 or 2.5 years old. I however once got an old timer, well past prime at 9 or 10 yrs old, almost no teeth left and his 7 point rack was very small.
In my blueberries I allow many others to hunt there, but only by permission. I only want 1 in there at any time except a party of 2 can hunt, usually one on drive while one sits in the shooting house. The shooting house is between 2 blueberry fields, that way the driver can walk towards the shooting house with the wind at their back. Our normal wind is from the north or north west, or from the south east or south. Either direction works at this location. With just a shooter in the house, with the house essentially in the middle they can look out any window where the wind is blowing into it. I have even seen plenty of deer when the wind is going towards the deer in this location too. Likely because there are people in the fields so often, because workers are there every few days up until the snow gets too deep and then again as the snow starts to melt.
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2018, 12:21:54 PM »
Mike, everything was not totally destroyed.  The Army Worms missed some plus there is volunteer and late germinating seed still sprouting.  To till would kill and eliminate this growth thus putting any new growth weeks away.  I considered broadcasting Rye (which does not require covering) but I felt that the new growth that I saw would be sufficient.  Also as I previously mentioned, both plots are surrounded by Fescue.  I bushhogged it forcing new growth which will make it more attractive.

The Ammonia Nitrate (Urea) that I broadcast will give the volunteer and late germinating sprouts a jump start.  Even though I was sorta ripped about the Army Worm damage, I will be OK.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2018, 09:49:11 AM »
Sorry lynn i wasnt clear enough in my question, i was referring to the initial grass you had to spray.  Id have thought tilling it in a few inches would have helped richen the topsoil and save on spray cost.  It looks to be a big patch!  
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2018, 11:41:09 AM »
For several years I tried just subsoiling and discing but the root clumps refused to die.  This next year I plan to spray very early and kill such as Bahia and Johnson grass before it seeds.  If I can get ahead of the curve maybe I can eliminate all spraying.
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2018, 02:34:50 PM »
Magicman - Johnson grass spreads by seed and rhyzome, so by discing it you will actually help it to spread.  The only effective way to kill both Johnson grass and K31 Fescue is what they call "spray, smother, spray" where you apply an early burn down, followed by a heavy planting of a nurse crop - sugar cane would work well in your area, maybe even mix in some cow peas for nitrogen that is then terminated - rolling works better I find, and no tilling in your target crop.   
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Re: Magic Bucks 2018
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2018, 07:44:55 PM »
I sat in the Strawhouse this evening and saw 11 deer before the wind got me.  Also 13 turkeys.



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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2018, 07:19:21 PM »
Pat went with me this evening to the Strawhouse.  We saw 22 deer which included 6 branch antlered Bucks, nothing outstanding.  

I will be sitting on my normal opening day perch tomorrow morning.
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2018, 09:42:45 PM »
We saw 16 deer this evening, 4 of which were probably some of the same bucks that we have previously seen.  I had a real show this morning with a spotted fawn rubbing his head on a Black Locust sapling.  I had forgotten to carry the video camera with me.
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