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Offline Mad Professor

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2018, 10:59:51 AM »

Here is an example of an adapter, courtesy of Chris from Australia.



 

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2018, 04:59:40 PM »
Awesome. Thank you for the picture. I will have to make something up soon as I get a chance. 

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2018, 06:42:34 PM »
Chainsaw forum at Arboristsite has lots of stuff on the early 064/bosch coils.

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2018, 02:37:28 PM »
Ok. Update. Got the 0000-400-1300 coil. When I went to install only 1 bolt hole lined up with the case? I canít possibly run it this way. Wouldnít after time vibration move the coil around and possibly change the gap or collide with the flywheel? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
Sorry there buddy.
I should have cross referenced your 064's serial# 112553003 for age ( but you weren't that certain the # was right).
I took for granted your 1122 400 1311 coil on your 064 was original making it a newer 064 to accept the 0000 400 1300 coil I suggested.

If your 064's serial # is correct you have a early first year 1986 064.
I have two 1st year 1986 064s and their #'s are newer then yours.
116468370 and 117584561.
That 1122 400 1311 dogleg Lida coil on your 064 was first installed on 064/066 in 1994 starting with serial# 131067164.

I never did it myself but some reports say the 0000 400 1300 coil you just bought will fit with 2 screws if you flip it upside down and put about a 3 inch longer spark plug cable on it.
Or do the adapter modification Mad Professor showed you.
I got a 0000 400 1300 on my 1991 066 Mag that bolts up just fine and is over 26 years old and still works great. Same with my 064 coil.

Here's my 1986 064 with 2 screw dogleg  Bosch 1122 400 1300 coil that your 064 should be running.


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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2018, 06:40:51 PM »
Mad professor, I read a lot over there about all the coils n flywheel combos. Lots of info. Thank you for the info. 
Holmentree, no worries buddy. You were right I wasnít 100% sure that was the serial number. I tried flipping the coil upside down. It just about fits that way but not quite. So your saying the 1122-400-1300 is what my saw should have? Because I found 1 of those too. Thank you guys for all your help. Lots of knowledge 

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2018, 07:52:11 PM »
Yep the 1122 400 1300 coil is what my first year 064 has.
Check that serial # again...that is the info we need.
But you already have a good coil what you just bought . Do the simple adapter mod pictured above with a bent piece of strap steel and 2 screws.
.010" gap between the flywheel magnet and coil.
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2018, 09:57:13 PM »
Iíll check the number again when I get a chance. Itís pretty hard to see. Yes Iíll just make up a adapter bracket and use the coil I bought. Havenít had a chance to get after it. Thank you again for the info. 

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2018, 03:32:42 PM »
Mad professor, I read a lot over there about all the coils n flywheel combos. Lots of info. Thank you for the info.
Holmentree, no worries buddy. You were right I wasnít 100% sure that was the serial number. I tried flipping the coil upside down. It just about fits that way but not quite. So your saying the 1122-400-1300 is what my saw should have? Because I found 1 of those too. Thank you guys for all your help. Lots of knowledge
Unless that is NOS bosch coil, it will crap the bed, even then they die early on, same with the 7!@#%^&* they put in the 056, but there is a cheap fix for those. How long who knows?  
The adapter for a universal coil might be best bet.  I think those have a retard for starting unlike early 064 coils.

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2018, 11:21:11 PM »
Rigged up a bracket tonight. Should work. Didnít have any wood in the yard to try it out. But will go find a tree to kill tomorrow in the daylight. Thanks for all your help guys!!! 

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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2018, 11:10:19 PM »
Alright. Tested out the saw. Cut down a 22 inch white ash. Saw ran great for the notch and back cut. Once the tree was down I limbed it then went back to the butt and started piece cutting 24 inch long blocks. About half way through the fourth cut the saw stumbled all over itself and the only way I could keep it running was hold it wide open and it would just barely idle and it smoked a lot. So I let it die gave it a minute and fired back up and made 4 more cuts and it did the same. Let it die again. Waited a minute fired up made 2 more cuts and it stumbled again. I let it die but this time when I fired it up it and held it wide open it just stumbled. So I just stopped grabbed the 440 and finished the tree. Any ideas? Iím thinking carb issue?

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2018, 07:51:08 AM »
That's why I hate doing saw diagnosis over the interenet ::)

You said smoking alot , it's possible there is a leak in the crankcase gasket at the oil tank ......
Do a proper leak test for both the carb and crankcase.
Is the muffler screen plugged.... 
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« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2018, 10:41:34 PM »
Anything is possible I guess. I will have to take it to the dealer to have tests done. I donít have the tools for that. Muffler screen is not plugged. Brand new dual port cover. Iíll get it to the dealer n see what they say. 

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Re: STIHL 064 troubles
« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2018, 06:19:56 AM »
Get a mightyvac for ~ $50.  Won't be much more than a dealer visit.  Do your own pres/vac testing.


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