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GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« on: July 23, 2018, 04:37:51 PM »
I have a 2008 Bobcat 331
Weight = 8,000
Hydraulic flow = 15.9 GPM
front lift = 1,000
side lift = 800
https://rtlequipment.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Bobcat-331G-spec.pdf

looking for a log grapple with rotator that is made in USA.
so far i find Europe and Canada, and almost any place but USA.

will be moving logs up to 12 foot and RR ties up to 8 foot
the thumb will work the grapple and i will install a 3-way valve on the bucket cylinder to operate the rotator


I have the following attachments:
Turbo saw
Brushhound 30EX flail mower
Bobcat auger, may be able to use this for the rotator.
Update 8/2/2018: Bobcat stated that it cannot be used for lifting



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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2018, 04:51:00 PM »
The small rotators and grapples are used a lot in Europe and Canada .
That's why you find them made there. 
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Get a hold of Pickens Equipment he will set you up
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2018, 04:52:25 PM »
I have a grapple and rotator made in Canada and it's well made
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2018, 05:18:04 PM »
yep i looked at the ones in Canada. they look well made.
and i looked at Farms, also well made.

i am hoping to find equal quality made in USA.
if i cannot find one then i will try Canada.

found one on Craigslist from a guy in Wisconsin
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2018, 06:27:21 AM »
Most of our USA grapples are made here in the PNW which is a different style then you’d want, one they’re heavy built, they won’t close as tight as the European pulp grapples, and our aren’t the parallel style of closing.

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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2018, 11:57:36 AM »
Most of our USA grapples are made here in the PNW which is a different style then you’d want, one they’re heavy built, they won’t close as tight as the European pulp grapples, and our aren’t the parallel style of closing.
that is what i thought.
that is what i found out when looking for a processor head for the Bobcat E80, finally got an Arbro 400 from Finland. will give the guy in Wisconsin a call
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2018, 11:35:33 PM »
Valby is another option. Not sure where they are made or if they make them for your application. But they are good buckets. Lots of guys around here have them on the older small franklin and iron mule forwarders. 

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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2018, 12:49:56 PM »
on Ebay Country/Region of Manufacture:
Farma = Estonia
VALBY = Finland
dymaxinc = way too heavy, smallest one weighs 750 lbs/340 kg

ICM  = Italy
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2018, 07:00:39 PM »
Take a look at Craigslist down around Eugene there’s a nice little 490 JD with grapples and a fabtek head for cheap.

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2018, 08:32:47 PM »
Take a look at Craigslist down around Eugene there’s a nice little 490 JD with grapples and a fabtek head for cheap.
thank you for the info, but i do not need or want a skidder or that size excavator.
the grapple with rotator price range i have been looking at have been under $2,500
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2018, 12:41:12 PM »
called the guy in Wisconsin. all of the steel comes from USA, and is made in the USA
so got one on order and should be ready to ship in 2 weeks.

will use the Bobcat auger motor for the rotator. do not need to spin it 360 degrees, just 180
will use a couple Anchor Shackles to make the connection.
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2018, 06:59:56 PM »
update: canceled the Wisconsin order.
the post hole auger cannot be used for lifting logs.
this put the grapple + rotator out of my price range.

so still looking, will update when i find one.
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2018, 07:21:59 PM »
I think your budget's a bit on the light side, aren't most rotators at least $1000 by themselves?
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2018, 07:42:54 PM »
I want to say the last rotator we bought for the forwarder was around 2500.

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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2018, 09:52:05 PM »
think thinning operation, not logging.
i am looking for rotators between 1 and 3 ton
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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2018, 09:57:12 PM »
I am thinking thinning, we thin from 19-35 year old timber some times older it sounds like you’re thinking PCT. Curious are you going to have enough flow to run the head? What size mains are they requiring and the return? Is your thumb a foot treadle or is it on the joystick button?

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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2018, 10:02:42 PM »
I have two bobcat excavators
E80 = now has an Arbro 400 stroke harvester head

the 331 = need rotator and grapple
https://grapplepros.com/products/farma-34-log-grapple

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Re: GRAPPLE for Mini-EXCAVATOR
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2018, 10:52:34 PM »



Material handlers have 360 rotators, sometimes with hydraulic ports for a cylinder.  Mine is a kinshofer that i bought from scrapyard i worked at.  Industrial surplus and truck wreckers are a good place to look.
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2018, 10:56:52 PM »
I thought I saw around $1000 for a rotator in that size.
Too many irons in the fire


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