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« on: August 09, 2018, 05:31:27 AM »
       These trailers were coupled to J5  Bombardiers, they were capable of carrying heavy loads for their size. I picked up a second one  that needs a little TLC, after 50 plus years in the bush .
                           Started by removing the old mast for the mechanical boom and the rear gate. Installed pockets/pickets , new tubing in the beams , and turned the beam axle , hope to sort out the wheels and tracks next.      J 5

 

 

 

 

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2018, 06:00:11 AM »
 

        Older pic , different trailer, showing what they can handle, on a good packed trail.   J 5

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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2018, 06:40:21 AM »
I'll get you some pictures of my axles on Saturday .

Do you weld a pintle hook to the rotating hitch thing ? Or use it like it was made as a weight distributing hitch ?



 

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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2018, 07:00:52 AM »
      Hi Sprucebunny
                  I have the original hitch to use on my one J5 and I made up a pipe tonque  with eyelet to install for the muskegs.
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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2018, 07:32:18 AM »
Looks like quite the load of wood on there.
Would it handle it easy going down a steep hill?
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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2018, 07:47:35 AM »
      Never any issues on moderate hills , as the J5 is pretty heavy, with the sleigh different story. Usually hook another J5 on the back of the sleigh for one bad hill we travel, guess we could drag chain the runners like the old horse sleigh days.  The sleigh works fine, but come spring with patchy snow or gravel spots on the road  the brakes come on pretty fast, and you can hardly move them .
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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2018, 01:12:49 PM »
Did you say Weight Distribution Hitch as in WDH  ?
We have a lot of good boys and girls in harms way
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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2018, 08:07:39 AM »
      Another scratch built trailer,  from whatever steel was around at the time. The skis were a complete failure, so made up some walking beams and tracks this summer. Still have to build risers at the tacks, to keep firewood from rubbing them, as set up for logs it works great.
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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 12:11:17 AM »
Where do you find the tracks and cleats and such?  
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2018, 05:59:47 PM »
   Undercarriage parts are all J5 / Muskeg spares I had kicking around.
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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 09:53:10 PM »
didnt bombardier sell out to camoplast then the name changed to casmo and that just sold to Michelin. the history of bombardier is pretty interesting. all starting in valcourt Quebec. some say he was the first to build half tracks for tractors . your j5 tracked machines to groom ski slopes  ski doo. rotax engines. around 2000 they bought what was left of evinrude. they built air planes trains. then it split up with brp having ski doo can am rude and bombardier building air planes trains

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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2018, 04:57:05 AM »
Great pics J5. I have always been interested in those machines as a log mover . In our area with the amount of sea ice we cross I am not comfortable that they are a good option . Would be great as as staging machine moving logs from the woods to the shoreline.

I think you need to look into UHMW plastic sheeting as a base for your winter sleighs .i have switched to those and they are much better than any other type of sleigh I have used. You would just need to adapt the size to match your bigger machines.

There is a very interesting article on a study of these type of sleighs being used to haul supplies up on the Greenland ice cap behind large tracked tractors . They beat the normal sleighs hands down 






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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2018, 05:03:49 AM »

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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2018, 10:46:19 AM »
Do they have a keel? What keeps them from slideslipping on offcamber slopes?  Or is it flatland?
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2018, 05:19:05 AM »
There are small keels on them . The amount of keel you put on them will depend on your needs . If you have a lot of side sloped paths ( not a good  option if it can be avoided ) you would just had a deeper keel . 

The beauty of these sleighs is that each time you pass with your load you improve your path . With regular use you end up with a very smooth compacted path . Coming out with a load you stay in your same track . Going in empty you drive slightly to one side thus widening your path each time . We travel over some barren areas and after a snowstorm the path is no longer visible . We mark the trail with small trees and this ensures after s snow storm we are driving on top of the old compacted trail.

In the spring as the snow melts of the meshes or trail is the last thing to melt . 

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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2018, 04:45:02 AM »
 

       Just about finished the trailer, one track on and one left to put together.
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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2018, 07:30:06 AM »
Are new aftermarket track belts and cleats out there for these?
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2018, 05:22:14 AM »
         Belting is available ,the proper crossers would be smooth with no lugs as the track is none driven. I usually buy belt and punch it myself, track hardware comes from scrap machines, as the new parts available out there have skyrocketed for these old bombardiers.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2018, 07:40:36 AM »
Here is a pic of those sleighs I mentioned . The figures that are within the report was what got me started looking into the plastic sheets as sleighs  for my snowmobiles . 
The figure that really interested me was the one where they found that the same amount of fuel on a sheet of plastic was one third as easy to pull as it was on one of their regular sleds.

After five years of using a smaller version of these sleds I can say for a fact this is true . Whatever you are hauling now with your tracked sleds you should expect to approx double the amount you can haul per trip once you get your sled properly designed for your J5 . 

These sleds pack down your skid path so the more you haul the better your path gets . 

With a J5 and the weight you could haul you should , if your going back and forth over the same ground very much , end up with basically an ice road .

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Re: J5 Bombardier Trailer
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2018, 06:50:05 PM »
        Pretty nice sleighs, great on an ice road or frozen lake, but after 12 years of running a sleigh and tracked trailer together, I'm heading in the other direction . I'll have 3 tracked trailers hauling wood this year, with no worries  about crossing a graveled 

 road or trying to move them when the snow starts breaking up in the yard , or the opposite problem when going down hills.  Having the option of hauling without snow has it's benefits as we logged pine this past fall with tracks
                        Wish those were around in the 70' s when we would tie a broken down snowmobile to a toboggan or crazy carpet to drag it home , what fun ! 
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