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Re: Where do yall get your wood?
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2018, 09:45:24 PM »
Did a bunch of calling around... found a flooring mill that would buy 1 1/8" x 6" boards for $600-700 per 1000bdft. He said my problem would be how fast i can cut it because it will stain after a day. It might take a few days to cut 1000bdft with my lm29 but couldn't i just cover it with a tarp? Meeting with a tie buyer Friday and i found a pallet mill that will buy pine pallet cants for $400 per 1000bdft. Does that sound decent as far as pallet lumber? I know its only $0.40bdft but cutting cants is easy and i don't have to market it, just cut and haul.  What do yall think?

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Re: Where do yall get your wood?
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2018, 10:50:33 PM »
Did a bunch of calling around... found a flooring mill that would buy 1 1/8" x 6" boards for $600-700 per 1000bdft. He said my problem would be how fast i can cut it because it will stain after a day. It might take a few days to cut 1000bdft with my lm29 but couldn't i just cover it with a tarp? Meeting with a tie buyer Friday and i found a pallet mill that will buy pine pallet cants for $400 per 1000bdft. Does that sound decent as far as pallet lumber? I know its only $0.40bdft but cutting cants is easy and i don't have to market it, just cut and haul.  What do yall think?
Sounds like a good way to lose money and work yourself right out of work.
You have to buy logs ( cheapest here is $250 a thousand) now you're at $150 a thousand profit. Oh wait you still have to pay for bands and fuel $50. Now it's $100 a thousand. Now you gotta deliver it. Not sure how far you have to go let's say 40 mile round trip assuming you can haul 2000 feet $20 in fuel. Now it's $90 a thousand profit. What happens when something breaks? Or DOT nails you for hauling commercially? Do you have a DOT permit?  And miscellaneous supplies needed? Oil, grease and everything else I have not mentioned. I just don't see how any money could be made.
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Re: Where do yall get your wood?
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2018, 02:01:39 AM »
Pallet material should be considered as a market for the logs and pieces of wood that you can't cut into anything more valuable. 

Given PAMizerman's rough calculations, you might need $500 per 1000 before you start making any actual profit.  Now if a batch of logs produces some boards that sell for $800, and some that sell for $600, and some material that goes as pallet cants for $400, maybe an average of $600 (assuming 1/3 of each grade), and you should be in the black. 

If you don't unload the low grade stuff (technically at a loss) then your overall return might drop into the red. $800, $600 and $0 gives an average return of only $467
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2018, 07:30:02 AM »
Sell any log that you cant make as good of a price on in lumber. 
To answer your subject question.  I cut my own.  I have 100 acres and I take out what needs to be cut.  I am fortunate to have that option.  I cut for mainly one customer now as I am retired basicly.  They buy some pine and some hardwood.  I will never run out of hardwood unless a storm takes a lot of it someday.  I will have to start buying some pine in the future as I don't have a lot that will make what they want.  When I started sawing, I cut ties.  Like some have said get to know a small local logger and build a relationship with them.  Be fair.  Have someway to unload them in a timely manner or one trip is all you will get.  If you don't get anything out of this post at least rember what Mike said at the start of his post, that I quoted above.  Dont get so excited about sawing that you cut something that you should have sold.  I have done it myself.  Banjo
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2018, 12:55:48 PM »
This is how it works [or did for me]: When you can't get a girlfriend, that's where you are but when you finally get one more suddenly become available. Same with logs. If you could put a big pile of logs on the side of the road it will attract more.

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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2018, 02:04:29 PM »
Careful, girlfriends lead to wives and you dont want that sort of trouble

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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2018, 03:24:31 PM »
Mike, don't get that backwards!  That definitely leads to trouble..... :D :D
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2018, 08:33:45 PM »
Call the loggers, Tell them what you're looking for, Tell them they can get paid in two days that will help a lot. :D
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2018, 04:10:02 AM »
Did a bunch of calling around... found a flooring mill that would buy 1 1/8" x 6" boards for $600-700 per 1000bdft. He said my problem would be how fast i can cut it because it will stain after a day. It might take a few days to cut 1000bdft with my lm29 but couldn't i just cover it with a tarp? Meeting with a tie buyer Friday and i found a pallet mill that will buy pine pallet cants for $400 per 1000bdft. Does that sound decent as far as pallet lumber? I know its only $0.40bdft but cutting cants is easy and i don't have to market it, just cut and haul.  What do yall think?
Flooring lumber is usually sold random width and length sorted into five standard lengths (6-8,9-10,11-12,13-14,15-16).
One day lumber stain is pretty much limited to maple/hickory in mid summer. I have never had issues on oak flooring moved the same week in summer and fall/ winter its no issue. Ties and flooring work well for a small mill and both are in high demand right now. Keep calling. There are several large flooring and tie treating plants around. Ties are in such short supply you may get the buyer to come to you and they will also know who is apt to buy your side lumber.

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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2018, 06:06:06 AM »
Keep in mind that value-add is important, and generally profitable.
Each step near doubles the value (cost). Timber to logs, logs to board, boards to lumber (dried), lumber to product.
The more of the chain you control, the more you'll make.  8)
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« Reply #30 on: September 14, 2018, 08:56:39 PM »
But there's only so many hrs in a day.  smiley_horserider :D :D
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« Reply #31 on: September 14, 2018, 10:48:39 PM »
Tie buyer came by today and told me $31 a tie. I thought that was pretty good. That and selling the side lumber might can make a little money

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« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2018, 07:36:27 PM »
If you don't mind me asking what are the dimensions and species of that tie?
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