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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2018, 02:11:50 PM »
Why would anyone want a new stihl? As bad as a new PU truck that costs half a house.

It will cost you close to $100 to have a dealer, plug it in to "diagnose" it.  Do that for a few years folks....I'll buy gas/oil/chains

I've got a stock of stihls from 80s-90s I can work on and plenty of NOS OEM spare parts and carcasses.  Everything from 40cc-90cc.  I've less into the whole lot than a new 90cc stihl.


Their new stuff turns me away.  When I saw the MS362 at a dealership I thought "what a big fat BOX compared to a 036 or 361.
The MS361 is fat compared to the 036 Pro and about 2/3 the saw IMHO
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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2018, 10:24:42 AM »
1992 and 1997 066 saws with swapped mufflers.
The dual port magnum muffler on the '97 weighs 1 lb 3.30 oz. The standard muffler now on the '92 I gutted and enlarged outlet, weighs 11oz. Almost a 1/2 lb lighter

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Amazing that you could save a half pound just on the muffler. I never would have guessed it could be that much.
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2018, 01:42:25 PM »
1992 and 1997 066 saws with swapped mufflers.
The dual port magnum muffler on the '97 weighs 1 lb 3.30 oz. The standard muffler now on the '92 I gutted and enlarged outlet, weighs 11oz. Almost a 1/2 lb lighter

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Amazing that you could save a half pound just on the muffler. I never would have guessed it could be that much.
Bob, yeah I was amazed too. I can still make it lighter. :laugh:
Stihl built the 066 /660 to last. The rear half of this 066 muffler is double walled and I counted close to 20 spot welds to drill out to remove it and the spark arrestor screen bracket.
The heavy baffle housing is now long gone.
Also thinking to save more ounces by replacing the front half with a aluminum plate.

Here's some pics of the 1122 series development of the muffler before mods to the 066's.
066 muffler on the left and first year 1986 064AV on the right.
Notice the 064 has a larger rear half but being single walled still weighs less the the 066's.

There was a redesign upgrade to the 064 muffler in 1989 as the bottom of the muffler was too close to the crankcase/oil tank and burning out the gasket from complaints in hot countries like Australia.
I remember when working for Stihl in the tech dept in 1989 of the tech update sheet  with the new muffler. A special 4mm thick spacer came with the muffler to fit the 064 cylinder.
Of course the 066 was already in testing with a 4mm longer cylinder exhaust port flange which the 064 got too.
When I look at the two mufflers the older style baffle box was on the bottom of the muffler directing the hot exhaust flow on the bottom. (That baffle I drilled extra holes in front as a muffler mod in the '80s)
The 066 baffle is on top.


 

  
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2018, 08:05:24 AM »
The MS361 is fat compared to the 036 Pro and about 2/3 the saw IMHO


Really?  Although i have never touched a 036 so i can not compare, but i find the 361 one of the best performing/weight saws from Stihl.  
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2018, 06:05:43 PM »
Stihl top handle battery saw now available in North America!
This is Canadian dollar price.


 
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2018, 09:06:38 PM »
066 Mag hybrid suited up for winter along with the 562XP as backup.

In third pic is a 1990's 066 refitted with 1980's non intelligent air compensation carb setup. Don't need intelli air compensating carb if you clean air filter after every work day.  :)

More tree removal going into November with -20F below NW windchill. 
Working alone removing 12 tall poplars and 2 shorter ones next to a busy street, 10 feet from the sidewalk and half block from a elementary school.


 

 

 


 

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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2018, 11:28:36 AM »
Took me a second. I thought, "huh... they call white birch poplar up there.". I guess they've had snow blasted into the bark? Doesn't look like fun working conditions.

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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2018, 02:23:37 PM »
Took me a second. I thought, "huh... they call white birch poplar up there.". I guess they've had snow blasted into the bark? Doesn't look like fun working conditions.
These are not  birch, our paper birch are white too but you can see their bark peel when they get older. Birch here is a much  harder wood then poplar.
These trees I'm removing here are white poplar or sometimes called  trembling aspen in other parts of North America .
The shorter more bushy trees in my first pic are black poplar or sometimes called balsam poplar.
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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2018, 04:27:35 PM »
Are those current pictures of present day Thompson weather?  
If so, I now recall what I don't miss about North of 55 in November!
Sure never had any buildings that tall when I lived there..
  

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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2018, 04:31:06 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2018, 04:49:44 PM »
Yup it takes a tough breed to live up here, wimps don"t belong here..  JK :D

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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2018, 05:11:09 PM »
When I lived there I wasn't much of a wimp - at least I didn't consider myself so, as I found actually living up in the Fox Lake, Gillam, Churchill, and Shamattawa areas in January through late March in canvas tents was kind of fun back then at least, but as we returned to 'civilization' for breakups and such, and resided alongside Thompson Drive, I was regularly 'fueled' @ the Burntwood and that somewhat helped I'm sure to deaden the pain :D..
Now that I'm a smidgen older I don't at all mind being more 'wimpy' or even considered so - I've paid my cold weather dues and my priorities I guess have changed as I matured, at least as to what I consider I should have to tolerate now.. :)  

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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2018, 05:12:51 PM »
I hope this thread doesn't also devolve into a "Real men don't use De-comp valves" discussion like the other one.... I'm already feeling wimpy and it's only gotten down to 23F so far.
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You have mastered the Stihl Mod with that 066 Mag Hybrid.....
They say the mind is the first to go; I'm glad it's something I don't use!

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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2018, 06:06:58 PM »
Thanks olcowhand, I can do more to the 066 with a 046 poly flywheel and maybe a poly sprocket cover getting it down in weight to a 65cc saw.
But I'm happy what I got now.

No we won't wander to the real man mentality here  :D
Randy like myself have spent years in remote work camps when we were young.
But it takes a tough couple to raise a family up here and get the kids through university to make something of themselves hundreds of miles down south.

There is a price to pay to work and live here to enjoy our high standard of living some of the highest in the country.
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2018, 06:18:15 PM »
Yup it takes a tough breed to live up here, wimps don"t belong here..   :D

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My My, how it has changed since the '60's when the worst things were a few fistfights between tough drinking underground miners and/or a few Crowbar Inn imposed nights to 'sleep it off'.
Sounds now like keeping a well running chainsaw could be a far distant second priority to having a well oiled and loaded gun as the best thing a resident could now do there to keep busy these days.. ;D  

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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2018, 06:49:54 PM »
Those stats are per capita. 14,000 people here and 99% of that crime is in the poor side of town 99% between themselves.
Go to the big city downtown core anywhere and you'll find serious real crime. Mostly domestic assaults here.

Over in my side of town I feel safe to walk my dog any time of the day or night. I don't need a gun or big stick, but with the bush we have here if needed I can grab a stick or a piece of picket fence if needed  :D
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2018, 07:07:23 PM »
Far worse gang violence etc in the  bigger centers.
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2018, 07:33:41 PM »
Don't get me wrong - I loved Thompson as it was my second home for a while - but it is sad to see how the 'Western' trend as shown also in Sask. and Alta. is going and probably only going to worsen, with time and the demographics being what they are..
On another topic I got my Stihl email announcement about the 462CM last evening..  8) You beat them by a few days!
Hopeful, since I am presently cutting a lot of hard Maple that the better (at least I assume it would be) washable type of filter that the 462 now wears won't be too far off..
As much as my 261 flings big chips all over the place and I have piles of them ankle deep where I'm working, I do notice the fine powder caught in my present filter and I am reluctant to blow in it too hard for fear of compromising the media.
Do you - considering your long Stihl history, have a feel for how long they often take to adapt and come out with changes such as possibly any new media style filters (if ever) to the fit the 261 saw CM version.
Seems like it would or could be a much better type to sort of return to 'as new condition' by washing verses just banging or blowing it out?  
And since being 'Stihl lol Stuff' is the gist of the threat somewhat - I have to admit that I do worry about things such as sucking crap into my new saw - since I like it so much I'd like to have it remain with me long-term..  

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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2018, 08:58:39 PM »
That black HD2 filter in my 261 is fine.
And speaking of fines which is primarily wood fiber or cellulose is actually a lubricant on a metal surface.

But if fines are working through a filter that's  telling you the filter has been dirty for too long.

It's funny when someone says they put grease on the filter base to better seal fines getting past.  They're just not maintaining that filter enough :laugh:

Dish soap and warm water is all you need , works better if you put the filter, soap and warm water in a Zip lock sandwich bag and shake like crazy. Rinse it off under the tap.

On my older Stihl nylon filters I put them in my empty sandwich bag from my lunch box. Fill it half full with mixed gas , seal it up and shake.
Filters come out nice and white even after 20 plus years.
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« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2018, 09:48:47 PM »
I wasn't aware the present 261CM filters were 'washable' I must have missed it... thought the manual only mentioned blowing it out with air from the inside outwards after rapping it on something to loosen up larger particles..
I usually try and clean it every fuel up or two and the carb throat isn't coated - just that the filter gets pretty clogged up meaning I guess it's doing it's job decently- but just an assumption on my part that the new 462 type, obviously being the newest version might and should be a better or more durable material since these type of deals usually improve as things evolve over time.


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