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Grade stakes
« on: September 13, 2018, 11:10:49 PM »
I'm looking to start making survey grade stakes 1/2"x2"x4' with the ends cut at an angle. Does anybody know whats the best saw and best way to cut the pointed end on a low cost budget. Something to earn extra cash. Would like a band mill. Any advice would be great. 

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 06:26:04 AM »
A long time ago, I worked a mill that pointed grade stakes with a radial arm saw.  We didn't do a whole lot of them, and it was just some busy work to have something to do.
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 06:41:54 AM »
You can make a big for a chop saw (miter saw) that's what I did.
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 06:54:37 AM »
You could make a jig for the bandmill to hold gangs of stakes at an angle. Cut, flip, reclamp and cut the other side.

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 07:37:48 AM »
Mount a pipe jig in front of a circlular saw so that you can put the stake into it and rotate it against the blade without going off center.  You could just clamp it to the table.  Wear gloves and face shield.
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 10:22:39 AM »
When I need survey stakes at work, I take a few hardwood stickers off the pile, and cut a sharp 45 degree point on the end with my miter saw.  Seems to go pretty quickly, and they work well.
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 08:24:17 PM »
You could make a jig for the bandmill to hold gangs of stakes at an angle. Cut, flip, reclamp and cut the other side.
 This is along the lines of what I saw at a high production stake operation except the jig rotated on the saw frame like a page turning so one cut was made, and then the jig was just flopped over and the second cut was then made. 
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2018, 08:44:07 PM »
Check this pointer out. Stake Pointer - Lee Valley Tools

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2018, 07:06:22 AM »
This one will sharpen as fast as you feed it.


 
I make 1"x1"x4' and 6'. I got another one to do 2"x2"x8' tree stakes.

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2018, 07:09:23 AM »
Unless your going into mass production free hand on a table saw will do you fine. Just be sure to wear eye protection as it will sometimes throw chunks. Frank C.
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2018, 07:40:00 PM »
Peter I have seen that one but don't know if it will work on a lath that is 1/2 thick by 2" wide 4' long. That would be nice if you could try one out on yours and let me know. Thanks

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2018, 07:54:52 PM »
The outher pix is an old one, I took one today of my setup.



I think x2 will split in half when put in the sharpener and I  don't think I could hold it.  See the sharpener on the left. I welded some 2"x2" angle iron to it to hold the 2x2 from sping in your hand. The machine came with a clamp to hold the wood in place. But that takes too long.  ;D

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2018, 11:58:25 PM »
Ya It would be hard. Maybe have to build a jig to hold the lath tight and close to the cutter. There has to be a lath mill out there but I can't seem to find anything.

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2018, 12:20:48 AM »
This might be a silly question but how do they plan on driving in a 1/2"x2" 4' stake? That would not be an easy task here in the northeast.

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2018, 10:22:53 AM »
A hammer. All the survayers around here that's all they use to stake jobs. All construction trades use these. The stakes that are 2"x2"x3' are used for silt fence on jobs.

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2018, 10:33:32 AM »
Thanks just a different size than I'm used to is all. Seemed like being only 1/2" they'd flex a lot when driving them. I've driven plenty but they are usually somewhere between 1&2" square haven't run into rectangular ones yet I don't get out much either  :D

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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2018, 10:44:37 AM »
shawn55

Down here in sandy Florida are stakes are 3/4"  at a minimum.  1/2" wouldn't work even in our sandy soil
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2018, 09:38:39 PM »
I make 3/4 x 1-1/2 x 18/24 grade stakes, stack two together and sharpen in the Hudson, little off-center point but no one has complained yet.  Silt stakes are 1-1/2 square x 60, also sharpenened in the Hudson.
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2018, 08:38:03 AM »
What about setting up a dual belt sander? lay the lathe flat and slide it into the belts till the desired point is obtained?

Could even just use single belt sander and flip the lath.

That thickness a simple shear may also work.
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Re: Grade stakes
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2018, 11:43:58 AM »
A 36 grit belt that runs over a big radius idler like a tire would also make a good point former.. Little safer than a table saw. 

Dual headed vertical belt sanders facing each other is how rifle barrels get their finish. One stationary and one walks into it on linear ways.  Barrel spins in place. I think one sander clockwise and one counter clockwise.  
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