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Offline Stuart Caruk

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Turning way to big logs on the mill
« on: October 11, 2018, 08:41:34 PM »
As I'm feeling better, I'm getting back to some of the projects that were put on the back burner during my transplant process. So I've got a bunch of large fir that's been sitting off the ground on my log pile for over 2 1/2 years. It's all starting to grow conch's on the ends of the sapwood, so I'm milling off the sapwood to recover what I can get from the decent centers. I'm getting into the 36" to 42" logs now that are bucked to 22' or so. My log loader is down yet again... same dang hydraulic leak I think that has drained the entire tank yet again... sigh. I'm reporting to pulling the logs out with the Skytrak and loading them from the backside. It works O/K, but the logs end up further down the table than I would like in an attempt to not bust up my saw carriage. I've ordered powered rollers to help position the logs laterally, but I still end up with too much log hanging way down my table.

Sawmill is a Woodmizer LX450 with a chain turner. Now, a claw turner wouldn't even touch these logs to roll them. The chain rolls O/K when the logs are solid. Sadly these logs have punky sapwood, so the chain just rips off the sapwood, or doesn't roll the log. To get by, I pounded in a hand lifting dog, then attached a chin to it, and ran it back over the top of the log to my telehandler, retracted the boom, and vvvvvvvpppp, the log rolled 90 degrees onto the stops. Had to do this twice until I had whittled the log down a bit. 2nd try didn't go so well. I ripped the handle off the dog, and the log rolled backwards till it hit the clamp.

I know that I've seen pictures of a tool that some of you folks use. I'll be darned if I can find it though. I believe it was a sharp hook or claw that you pounded into the log, with a clevis attached. It clipped into a length of chain and was used to grab the log to parbuckle it. I've searched the forum with no luck. Any ideas, or a place to buy one?

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Stu
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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 08:48:14 PM »
I had no idea you were headed to transplant surgery.  Always enjoyed your posts!  

Sadly, I have no clue on the tool you describe.  

Keeping getting better
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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2018, 08:52:19 PM »
I think MM had one made from a broken set of log tongs.  I have a hook from an old cant hook and that works pretty good.  I've done MUCH better using a tow strap.  Wrap it around the log and pass it through the eye on one end.  You want the short eye coming up the side you are trying to lift, the long eye will fold over through that eye and double back on itself.  But, works best if it is at the bottom of the log.  It will cinch tight as you lift - can't fall out like a hook might.  Easier to reposition and probably will grip better on the punky wood you have than a hook.
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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 08:53:09 PM »
 

 
Could you be referring to Magic Hooks?  I made these from broken logging tongs but replacement hooks from Logrite would work:  Replacement Hooks - Logrite Tools LLC
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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2018, 10:35:08 PM »
Cooks sells a hook for their MP32 mill, they use a small electric winch, you wrap a cable around the log, and the hook attaches to the end of the cable, just turn on the winch and it rolls the log into the dogs. I bought a bigger winch to roll big logs, works great.  Just have to support the winch by chaining it to a tractor or truck. Otherwise you bend your winch stand.

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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2018, 10:59:47 PM »
I turned an ornery log last week using a Magic Hook, chain, and the sawmill's log clamp.  ;D
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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 07:23:14 AM »
I replaced the loader/turner with this:


 



It slides in and out under motor control for travel and optimum pull point. 

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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 08:00:14 AM »
 

 As expected, Magic's are much more sophisticated than mine.  I just hacked mine out of a scrap piece of plate steel.
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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 08:31:31 AM »
I used an old wrecker hook, I ground a sharp edge on it instead of the point.

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Re: Turning way to big logs on the mill
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2018, 10:03:49 AM »
Stuart, somehow missed you were having surgery.  Glad you are getting where you can get out and do some stuff.


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