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Re: Making my own firewood processor.
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2018, 10:30:43 PM »
How do you oil the chain on your hydraulic chainsaw?
I just use a low pressure 12V electric fuel pump that I bought from surplus center in Lincoln Ne. It's turned on and off by a hyd pressure switch that that is plumbed into the saw drive circuit. It does a good job of oiling. 

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Re: Making my own firewood processor.
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2018, 09:02:28 AM »
I picked up some of the steel for the build yesterday. Main frame is going to be a 12'' I beam 8' long with 8'' wide flanges and 1/2'' thick. Plans for 1/2'' plate for cylinder mounts, pusher plate, and wedge. 8'' channel iron with the c up is the start of the log trough.

That I beam with the other pieces laying on top of it would make a boat anchor for my 1 ton dually. Kinda drove up hill all the way home.

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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2018, 10:16:35 AM »
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You never did say the size and type of wood you will be running on the processor?

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Re: Making my own firewood processor.
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2018, 08:11:10 AM »
We have oak, red white and blackjack.

I have about 30  acres on my property and dad has another 15 acres of tunted trees that would make a lot of 12'' diameter and less. The trees are much too close together. Fairly straight and tall but too small to saw and lots of them. I am always getting a lot of logs that I cull to the firewood pile. Average diameter of them is going to be in the 16'' size. 

I am going to try to build this processor so that I am not limited on size so much. I think I may make the trough self adjusting from 12'' to 25'' by hinging the sides and having them hooked together with spring pressure. I wont be limited on the saw as my Stihl 660's are equipped with 36'' bars and chains.

The splitter head may be a limiting factor. I am planing for a 4 way  and It will be solid. I think I can put the wings on it so that it always splits the size I want on the bottom and I may have to flip the pieces on top back over and split them again. I am thinking this will put my wings about 6'' up the main wedge.

A lot of thinking going into this. I am shooting for simple. I  dont want to have a rube goldberg type of processor.




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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2018, 02:46:20 PM »
Not much Oak in my area and the little there our are old growth large trunk trees. Making the centering part of the splitting unit adjustable  would be a good idea. I would make your wedge hyd adjustable. I think you will find that four inch cylinder is going to be a little too small on a four way and Oak may be those smaller dia oak trees split easier than the few old growth I have processed over the years. I can't wait for your build to start and the pictures to follow. I got my firewood crew coming this afternoon and all day Saturday. I hope by Sunday the crops will be dry and we can get back to corn harvest.   

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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2018, 03:03:28 PM »
The trick is gonna be making the first split before the other wings engage.  I have no issue with oak on a welded up 5 way with 13hp honda and maybe 4" cylinder, unknown PSI.   Oak is fairly straight grained and easy to fracture.  The hickory crotches and especially that spiral grain of black gum are major problem.  Ive not experienced anything as bad as black gum.

That said i wouldnt make it a fixed 4 way or an adjustable trough.  A deep vee trough will always center if the cheeks are wide enough.  A vertically adjustable wedge head isnt that hard or complex.  It can be pin on, winch, lever, cable or hydraulic adjusted.  jmo.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2018, 05:27:11 PM »
The processor I built has a trough for the log to slide in, pulled by a winch, up to the saw. The saw is either a 372xp or a 395xp on a hinge. Once the round is cut, it rolls about 16" down onto the splitter I beam. Then it is centered in a trough made of old push brooms(so that way branch stubs and irregular pieces don't get hung up) and then pushed through a fixed four way wedge set at 6" as my target size is 12" diameter logs. Then the split wood is pushed directly into my pickup or dump trailer as my processor sits higher than the beds of both of them. I can get pictures/videos if you need.

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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2018, 09:32:23 PM »
I would like that. 

I have plans for the same kind of non powered chute to load my wood or pile it.

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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2018, 09:16:59 AM »
The processor I built has a trough for the log to slide in, pulled by a winch, up to the saw. The saw is either a 372xp or a 395xp on a hinge. Once the round is cut, it rolls about 16" down onto the splitter I beam. Then it is centered in a trough made of old push brooms(so that way branch stubs and irregular pieces don't get hung up) and then pushed through a fixed four way wedge set at 6" as my target size is 12" diameter logs. Then the split wood is pushed directly into my pickup or dump trailer as my processor sits higher than the beds of both of them. I can get pictures/videos if you need.

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Levi How do the old push brooms heads hold up? I try a couple different ones on my firewood processor for help centering the pieces but they didn't last. 

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Re: Making my own firewood processor.
« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2018, 09:33:15 AM »
There are some very good ideas on here.
Could we get some pictures of some? Would love to see some 
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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2018, 11:56:04 AM »
Paul have you had time to get started on the firewood processor?

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« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2018, 06:18:44 PM »
Here ya go Paul. I started with an old lawnmower, boat trailer, and in these pictures I have a 372xp mounted for the cut off saw. I also use a 395xp if I want to work harder  :D There is a winch mounted that advances the log forward, but I need to revamp it as it's slow and cumbersome. 



 




 

Here the broom heads are opened up.


 

Here the broom heads are closed to center the log. I've put around 120 cords through this and imI still on the original broom heads. I think that since I activate them with a lever instead of a fixed position has really extended their life since big logs don't affect them.


 


As you can see here I can split directly into the back of my pickup to reduce handling.


 

Sorry it took so long to get pictures up.
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« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2018, 10:14:52 AM »
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Looks like you got a nice set up. Looks like in your area you have what I would call some nice sized pole wood. I tried running the broom heads on mine to help center the wood and they didn't last but they weren't adjustable and I run a lot of 24 to 36 inch dia hard wood I finally installed some plates on a angle and it works pretty good. I have my in the shop right now changing the feeding system and log deck some. If I were starting this firewood processor project again I would make the splitting part from scratch that would be built to center the logs and I would use a chain saw or belt drive the saw instead of making it hyd drive like I did. It took a lot of money to make a hyd chain saw work. I need to get set up so I can post pictures on here at this time I have no way to do it. 

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« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2018, 09:54:41 AM »
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Looks like you got a nice set up. Looks like in your area you have what I would call some nice sized pole wood. I tried running the broom heads on mine to help center the wood and they didn't last but they weren't adjustable and I run a lot of 24 to 36 inch dia hard wood I finally installed some plates on a angle and it works pretty good. I have my in the shop right now changing the feeding system and log deck some. If I were starting this firewood processor project again I would make the splitting part from scratch that would be built to center the logs and I would use a chain saw or belt drive the saw instead of making it hyd drive like I did. It took a lot of money to make a hyd chain saw work. I need to get set up so I can post pictures on here at this time I have no way to do it.
All of the firewood I cut is lodgepole pine, which is starting to fall down as its been dead standing about 12-15 years. The ideal trees I have are about 16" at the base so I get a sawlog out of the bottom 15-20 feet, and then firewood from the top 40-60 feet. It is pretty ideal pole wood  :D
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« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2018, 01:14:46 PM »
In my area eastern Nebraska its a mixed bag of trees for firewood. One of our farms was a big mess when we bought it so that's were most of my firewood for the last ten years has come from. It had ash, mulberry, elm, cottonwood and the most and best wood for firewood has been locust and hedge {Osage Orange}. The farm had a lot of ceder trees also that had taken over a lot of the farm some of them got milled the rest went to the burn piles. One area had a lot of locust so when I clean that area I just logged it out and have been running those logs that would fit threw the processor. That made about 100 cords of firewood which included some of the larger logs that we had to buck by hand and split with a stand alone splitter probably was around 20 cord. We are getting down to were about all that is left to process on this farm is going to be hedge that was planted in the 1930's for fence posts and never was harvested. Hedge makes great boiler wood but it is a pain to brush out. 

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« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2018, 08:18:08 AM »
Yes I have gotten started.

I have the channel iron welded down to a base(2 grader tires and wheels) which will make it the right height for running the chainsaw. I have welded down the cylinder pin point on the back end and have the push plate, slides, and wedge all completed. It made a travel length so that we can cut 25'' wood, not that we ever will but we can. I also have the log tray welded down. I have ran the cylinder back and forth with air and it works real smooth and comes within 1'' of the wedge.

I still lack the mount for the chainsaw and the clamp arm as well as cage/catchers for the log before and after it gets cut. Mounting for the valve as well.

No pics yet and we havent run a test but it will probably happen soon. We have not put any new pictures on here in quite a while and I am sure  my wife will be pulling her hair out. 

We have been real busy with the sawmill and other farm related stuff so I havnt had a lot of time to devote to the processor. PC
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2018, 11:09:37 AM »
Paul
Sounds like you are making a lot of process. Winter showed up in our area early so the outside farm work came to a halt a lot sooner than normal and yes we all love pictures.  

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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2019, 08:15:57 AM »
I got enough finished on the  processor to give it a run yesterday. I cut for about an hour and made 2 ricks+ of firewood. I wound up having to do some modifying and rewelding 2 times, but my woodyard is 100' from my shop so that was easy.

I bent the wings up on the 4way part of the wedge with the 3rd log. It really didnt hurt anything, but it needs to be more beefy.

Sorry still no pictures. My wife took a job at a local school and wasnt here for the running on it. I am trying to get her to video a few things so maybe this weekend.

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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2019, 10:55:15 AM »
Paul 
Good to here you got it running. I hope you made that four way adjustable. Those multi wedges got to be tough in my area. That locust and hedge is hard on them. Looking forward to the pictures. 

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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2019, 10:58:00 AM »
I'm excited for the pictures and video, too!
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