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Need to build a bandsaw mill
« on: October 26, 2018, 07:45:49 PM »
Hello millers,
I believe this is my first post.
I'm trying to plan out a bandsaw mill and am currently researching the wheels that the blade runs on.  For easy repair and economic considerstions, I want everything that can be 'off the shelf' to come from the shelf.  All of the cast iron pulleys approaching 19" that I've found at Surplus Center have  "fractional HP" in their description, doesn't this mean they're designed for loads of less than one horse power?  There's even a mill builder on youtube who gives a Surplus Center part number that leads to one of these fractional HP pulleys.  I've questioned him on this and gotten no reply.  Can someone please lead me to a good source of sheaves "pulleys" that will be safe and not break the bank?
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2018, 08:48:05 PM »
   My Turner Mills 36" mill has The same wheel and tire that the mill is trailered on for the blade, with a 13' band blade.

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2018, 09:06:21 PM »
Leon,
Thanks for your quick reply.  While I haven't ruled out pneumatic tires on rims, at this point, I'm leaning towards cast iron pulleys running v belts in the groove. There are a couple of sources like that sold by people who supply bandsaw mill kits and one by a dealer who sells drive wheels that cost more than a lot of people have in a complete diy mill.
The Surplus Center prices are most attractive but I can't get past the fractional HP thing.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 09:26:33 PM »
Not commenting on the quality of any product you are looking at as I have no idea, but wheels are one place you can not afford to have issues.  Your saw will never cut right if the wheels are not true.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2018, 10:29:55 PM »
Southside logger,
Thanks.
I like your comment about having enough cows to ensure that there's no spare time.  I share that pleasure.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 10:44:34 PM »
Yup - I actually enjoy those critters more than the wood side of things - when they cooperate.  Just this evening I was walking back in the rain from checking on a group that is close up and suddenly I had 7 or so deer right ahead of me, does and this years fawns.  They never even saw me, when they did they could not wind me so they came right at me and ran in a big circle around me several times maybe 20 yards away.  Then they pranced off to the side of the field and kept on goofing off.  It was a pretty surreal moment, and I owe it to the girls.  
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2018, 11:53:44 PM »
   Southsideloger is correct. If you want iron wheels, don't skimp. Cooks Saws and Linn Lumber sell some good qulity wheels.

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2018, 12:21:14 AM »
I've looked at both of those suppliers and even have the plans and video for the Lynn Mill. They're both under consideration as is the pneumatic tire.  I can't understand why I can't find a horsepower rating other than fractional HP anywhere.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2018, 05:50:18 AM »
Go long too. I have a mill that can cut 20 foot logs. Never have got that long. But little did I know it's much easier to load a log 16 feet long onto a mill that can cut 20 foot logs. I have 4 feet to spare instead of inches. Don't have to get the log just right to fit. Also allows me to get the head out of the way too.
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2018, 07:15:27 AM »
I'm running surplus center pulleys 18 inch and have been on the mill for 22 years I'm running a 48 hp engine and 36 inch cut haven't had a problem yet. the pulleys don't turn fast enough to cause them to come apart
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2018, 07:57:46 AM »
Thecfarm,
Good idea.  Thanks.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2018, 08:06:25 AM »
Wayniac,
Thank you.  That's what I'd hopped someone would say!  I don't suppose you remember whether your pulleys' description mentioned "fractional HP", all those years ago.  Do you?
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2018, 09:39:23 AM »
I built my mill with them 2 years ago and have no problems yet. 19hp diesel on mine. 
Home built bandsaw mill still trying find the owners manual!

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2018, 02:24:04 PM »
I also used the surplus center pulleys and have no complaints...

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2018, 02:42:42 PM »
Used those on my mill when I built it several years ago, can't remember if it said fraction HP or not.  I used the ones with split tapered bushings 1 3/8" shaft.  B57 belts.  Has worked well for many years.
4 T porta power to tension the blade.  Ordering my first set of new bearings today.

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2018, 12:05:50 AM »
Many thanks to everyone for your replies, especially those who've used Surplus Center pulleys.  
If anyone who has built a mill using pulleys from Surplus Center remembers them being rated "fractional HP" please tell me. Since Surplus Center supposedly sells surplus I can't be sure you guys, who've successfully used their pulleys didn't get them when they had bought pulleys rated for multiple horse power.  
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2018, 12:29:49 AM »
Just looked up my receipt. It says part number BKH190. Which is listed as fractional hp. Seems fine on my mill....
Home built bandsaw mill still trying find the owners manual!

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« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2018, 01:06:18 AM »
JRWoodchuck,
You're a prince!  If I decide to go with that one, it'll cost well over $200.00 per pulley  LESS than the most expensive one I've found.  There are some options in between so, I've got to do some more research and make my decision.
Thanks again.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2018, 06:42:31 AM »
they pretty much know you are going to use more than fractional hp with a 19 in pully but that clears them of any liability if you know what I mean
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2018, 10:41:35 AM »
That thought had occurred to me, as well.  I wonder if these pulleys are seconds that didn't pass inspection...
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