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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2019, 11:53:06 AM »
Apologies for digging up an old thread, but I am trying to educate myself on the pulleys before I buy.  

Does the blade ride on the OD of the pulley and only uses the guides to stay in place, or does the blade somehow fit into the groove of the pulley?


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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2019, 11:59:56 AM »
the band rides on a band wheel that looks like a pully but the grove is filled with a belt the same size as the wheel.  so the band blade rides on the belt in the groove of the band wheel.  some people use tires on a wheel.. you should go look at a few mills if you have not already.  if you add your location to your profile, there may be members in your area that might volunteer to show you their mill.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2019, 12:03:23 PM »
the guides keep the part of the blade cutting the wood from being pushed back, and also make a strait section to get flat boards.  there are pulleys from motor to band drive wheel, and poss. an idler pulley.  some companies offer parts as well as head units, and you build the frame 
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2019, 12:16:11 PM »
the band rides on a band wheel that looks like a pully but the grove is filled with a belt the same size as the wheel.  so the band blade rides on the belt in the groove of the band wheel.  some people use tires on a wheel.. you should go look at a few mills if you have not already.  if you add your location to your profile, there may be members in your area that might volunteer to show you their mill.
Thanks Doc. I updated my profile to show location and age.
Earlier in this thread, people were talking about using this pulley from surplus center for band wheels. From what you are telling me, I'd need to buy a V belt with the same OD as the pulley and slip it over to fill the groove?
I'd love to buy the cooks pieces, but that's just not in the budget.

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« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2019, 12:23:33 PM »
yes.  the band wheels are heavy cast wheels that are almost like flywheels.  they used to recommend the v belt be tight and there was a whole procedure to change them, now they are using them more loose so the saw dust can fall out. a pulley would work.  it will need to be linked to a drive pulley on one side, say linked on a shaft.  do you have machining skills?  some have had success with a harbor freight model if you are just wanting to get in cheap to start.  with all your time and material cost I am not sure how much you save.  unless you have lots of time and materials already.  Good luck.  others will likely have opinions as well.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2019, 12:28:07 PM »
you can also check the sawmill exchange for a used mill.  they are a sponsor and there is a link to the left.  do you have experience with a mill?  if not it would be good to gain a little mill time to help you make good choices with your build.  I respect that not everyone chooses to just go out and buy a mill.  the pulleys need to be true and stable.  they will be under great tension.  I have not seen the ones you are speaking of.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2019, 12:29:50 PM »
yes.  the band wheels are heavy cast wheels that are almost like flywheels.  they used to recommend the v belt be tight and there was a whole procedure to change them, now they are using them more loose so the saw dust can fall out. a pulley would work.  it will need to be linked to a drive pulley on one side, say linked on a shaft.  do you have machining skills?  some have had success with a harbor freight model if you are just wanting to get in cheap to start.  with all your time and material cost I am not sure how much you save.  unless you have lots of time and materials already.  Good luck.  others will likely have opinions as well.
Thanks for the info Doc.  I can weld/fabricate but don't have easy access to a mill or lathe. I was just looking at the Linn Lumber site and see that they sell a complete saw carriage kit for $1200, which takes all the guess work out of building the intricate parts. I can whip up a trolley and track easily. Might be the way to go, and still be under the HF saw price.

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2019, 12:34:21 PM »
I've got some exposure to another home made mill that used tires. Seemed to be more trouble than it was worth.

I also have experience with a wood mizer. It's very nice, but not even in my realm of "affordable".

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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2019, 12:37:46 PM »
might be a good way to start.  if you get the sawmill bug, it will be like owning a boat.  at least with a mill, you can try to offset expenses with cash for services or lumber.  welcome to the forum and keep us up to date with your plans.  lots of info and people here that started out just like you.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2019, 12:39:12 PM »
will this be for your own use.  many trees around.  will you be trying make money?  I am from ks and although we do not have big forested area, we also have few loggers and sawmills
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2019, 12:39:39 PM »
Thats how I started. See my build thread. It worked out well. 

I can tell you now that the cost of new steel is much higher than you are thinking. I doubt you can build for less than the HF model. Unless you already have all the parts. I put the 22 hp predator engine on mine and that was $700 itself. It was far more than $300 in steel. Even if I had the engine, I still have more than $1000 in steel.


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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2019, 03:14:38 PM »
Another option for wheels would be to find an old large bandsaw.  I sold one this weekend that had tipped over and broke the trunnion on the table.  32” wheels.  The guy who bought it ($400), plans to turn it into a sawmill.  

Steel is expensive. I was about to buy $600 for tube to replace rotting timbers under my band mill.  Found some 20’ I beam that was heavier than I needed (6x8”) for $200 on FB.  (HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY!!!)

Unless you have a bunch of the stuff you need already sitting around or you don’t value your time, it is usually cheaper to buy a mill and start using it IMHO.  

To keep it cheap, one could use a wood frame (timbers or sistered 2x6) with a bit of angle along the top for track.  It would get things moving until better could be built.  Do check out Hudson, Woodland Mills, and Norwood.  They have very economical entry mills.
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2019, 03:30:12 PM »
$1200 for linn basic starter kit. or $2300 for a complete working mill. You need all those parts either way :)

I would actually be curious to know what the HF mill is like.

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« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2019, 03:40:37 PM »
Thats how I started. See my build thread. It worked out well.

I can tell you now that the cost of new steel is much higher than you are thinking. I doubt you can build for less than the HF model. Unless you already have all the parts. I put the 22 hp predator engine on mine and that was $700 itself. It was far more than $300 in steel. Even if I had the engine, I still have more than $1000 in steel.
I just cruised through your thread, very nice!
I have some hook ups through work that I'm trying to source some steel from for cheap or very cheap. We shall see! The perks of being a GC.

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« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2019, 04:16:36 PM »
I built my mill from all new metal and parts have about  $5000 in it and a year time but I would do it again. Experience is worth the time spent. I only wish that I had found this site before I built my mill the idea on here are fabulous.  But as others have said if you want to start now buy one ready to go.
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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2019, 04:26:21 PM »
Eh, I'm not necessarily in a hurry. I'm in between projects and have a local-ish mill for milling when I need it. The desire is to have my own and not have to haul logs into town and work around someone else's schedule. I have a large fence project coming up next year as well and would rather spend a few grand on a mill that I can get more use out of rather than dumping cash into a large box store for lumber.

More importantly, I like to build/tinker and my project car is "done" for now. ;D

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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2019, 05:37:11 PM »
Good look forward to your build
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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2019, 07:52:15 AM »
I have about $2K into mine.  Sourced as much stuff used as I could.  Old trailer axle cut down to size.  Used 22hp motor, scrap bin for short metal.  I bought good steel for the frame.  Yeah you can buy a HF sawmill....but then you'd have a HF sawmill.  Im not concerned with dropping a 1800lb log onto my bunks.

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Re: Need to build a bandsaw mill
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2019, 08:49:29 AM »
Woodmizer start mill with extra rail will cut anything you want and It is reasonable in price.  I have cut about 500 logs this year with it and it has paid for itself within the first few months.  I would update but I WANT it to be a HOBBY and NOT a business!!!!!, trying to slow down!!
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« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2019, 09:27:29 AM »
any pics of the project car?  That is helpful info.  we are trying to save you time and money.  If you like to build stuff as a hobby, go for it.  you must have logs or trees at your disposal.
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