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Old forwarder/skidder
« on: October 28, 2018, 11:08:03 PM »
So my family and I went on a Sunday afternoon drive today to take a look at an old soderhamn forwarder. It has a 3-53 Detroit and a winch mounted directly below the loader.  This thing has been sitting for 4 years since the lady's husband passed away and no one who's looked at it had tried to start it.   I took battery and some starting fluid and with some tinkering, got it started. The clutch worked and the transmission engaged but the hydraulics did not work so I couldn't try to drive it. The hydraulics pump was spinning but I think it was out of oil... The tires all hold air and three of them are really good, one has a gash/boot in the side wall. There are some welds/repairs, it needs some hydraulics hoses, and some pitting on a couple of cylinders, and what else???
It was listed for $4500 but she said she'd take $3800.  I wasn't activly looking for one but have secretly wanted one and it could be very useful on the farm with a sawmill and cutting firewood. (I haven't seen a forwarder with a  winch before and that could  be a real plus) However not exactly budgeted for but...

So, has anyone had experience with one of these?

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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 12:13:35 AM »
id be on that like flies on stink. 
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2018, 07:52:13 AM »
yes, what a deal.  Scrap value can't be much less.  
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2018, 07:57:50 AM »
If you don't already have something with a picker on it you might think about it more. If it is useable it would be worth having even just as a yard machine.

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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2018, 08:31:54 AM »
Little bit of tinkering and sounds like it would be a great machine for around yard and home lot woods.  If I was in your shoes I'd go for it, cant go wrong with that price

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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 09:51:07 AM »
Well, from a scrounger's view. 

The crane is worth a good thousand dolls, or more if it has a grapple.  The winch, depending on what it is, a good 500 to 1500. The engine, 500 ( i know it's low, but hard to ditch i bet those 3-53 as there is plenty around) Axles, at least 200 a piece. Transmission, i guess it wouldn't be complicated to get 300 for it.  Three wheels in good shape, 300 a piece?  300 in scrap metal? You are already at the price she was asking for, or thereabouts.  300 for the blade and rams. So, i guess, 3800 is not a bad price. 

May be if you winge a bit, say that the hydraulics gonna cost such and such. She would let it go for 3500?  It's no good to rip off an old lady. But i think it would be a fair deal. Instead of letting it rot away. 
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 12:55:16 PM »
 



Ok, finally got a picture up, she's not much to look at, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Like I said, I got it started, but the hydraulics did nothing, no groaning, no steering.  The pump is belt driven off the engine and was spinning.  I didn't have a light, but I stuck a stick down the reservoir and it was pretty much empty.
Trying to figure out what I can sell to apply towards this :) 

So the dilemma is that it's easy to want/justify a purchase but weather to buy something that doesn't immediately/directly make money especially in the stage of life of raising a family and trying to live debt free.

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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 05:34:54 PM »
Gesh, you have kids right?  How much do they go for?  $7/hr?  Put em to work moving wood until you have enough for the forwarder.  They'll be so happy to have a machine do it they'll gladly go to school, then college, then grad school.   8)
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 05:53:43 PM »
That deal will never come along again in your life.  


Your kids might be paying their own way through school with it.  Make a deal and get it home before the next guy does.  Then teach the kids how it all works incase they dont actually want to go to school.  One way or other they need an education. 
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 06:27:32 PM »
Did you add the cost of trucking to haul it home into the price?
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2018, 07:35:44 PM »
Look at the price of an old farm tractor... compare the capabilities of each and I would be pulling this machine home!
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2018, 07:38:43 PM »
While I'd agree on the possibilities of this machine, I'd be leery of what it could cost to get it up running, and operational. It must be based on a Timberjack?
Too many irons in the fire

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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2018, 07:41:59 PM »
The kids could get jobs and pay board like I did.

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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2018, 08:00:00 PM »
Just a point on forum organization.  The sawmilling section has gotten cluttered with Logging related threads.  Is Jeff on his hunting trip to the UP?  Have to dig up his thread to see how that went.
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2018, 10:19:57 PM »
         Get the next generation off to dental school, then you can buy gas and go hunting !!
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2018, 04:26:06 AM »
Looking at the state of it. The woman asked you 4500, but i am ready to bet if you offer twice the scrap metal price, she would let it go. I bet she finds it ugly where it is, and wants it gone. 
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2018, 04:45:36 AM »
 Thats a fair deal for that machine. Ive had one for twenty years for use on my farm. I just sold it to upgrade to a Timberjack 230A. There was not much on that machine I did not replace at on time or another. I am working on uploading a picture.

 

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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2018, 06:58:04 AM »
A good old machine for a fair price or a bottomless money pit.  It's a roll of the dice.
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2018, 09:37:54 AM »
It all depends on your propensity to acquire and reutilize free-ish alternative components.  One guy gets it going on bubblegum and chicken wire he has in stock and another guy is calling in "his mechanic" for service.

Old machines are not for everyone.
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Re: Old forwarder/skidder
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2018, 12:14:54 PM »
There might be a valve that you use to direct the flow. Seen them upper left hand side.
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