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« on: October 30, 2018, 10:42:16 PM »
I bet your grandmaw couldn't sew like this lol



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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2018, 10:53:57 PM »
Guess I gotta learn to sew.... :D
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2018, 11:09:20 PM »
Happy birthday to the only 127 y/o I ever knew.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2018, 06:33:58 AM »
lol lol thanks Howard..all I can say is if you wanna grow as old as me, drink your milk and eat plenty of burger king!
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2018, 06:47:40 AM »
You don't look a day over 126
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2018, 06:50:04 AM »
So was it a Burger King Whopper you beat the starter with?  :D
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2018, 07:08:26 AM »
So was it a Burger King Whopper you beat the starter with?  :D
Iíll tell you what, dey put such a package inside dem bacon kings dat dey could knock a guy out cold!  Just keep it in da bag, grab da end of it and take her out for a rip bud
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2018, 07:09:08 AM »
You don't look a day over 126
Bless your heart lol lol
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2018, 09:21:56 AM »
I see your feet actually left the ground when you jumped over that sawdust extraction hose...you are quite the jock strap. :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2018, 09:26:15 AM »
I noticed the new sawdust blower addition on the mill.  No more shoveling mostly. Good for you.  

Not bad for an old man.  
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2018, 07:16:17 PM »
I see your feet actually left the ground when you jumped over that sawdust extraction hose...you are quite the jock strap. :D :D :D :D
lol lol lol ... funny thing is, that was kinda hard on my old knees, I just barely pulled that off lol lol
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2018, 07:17:57 PM »
I noticed the new sawdust blower addition on the mill.  No more shoveling mostly. Good for you.  

Not bad for an old man.  
I tell you what...woodmizer needs to make a blower and sell them with every mill that goes to a production based business.  Itís sooooo much better than shoveling 5 yards of sawdust from the mill every day.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2018, 07:58:46 PM »
 

I tell you what...woodmizer needs to make a blower and sell them with every mill that goes to a production based business.  Itís sooooo much better than shoveling 5 yards of sawdust from the mill every day.
x2 on that. I have a blower on mine, but it involves a bunch of expensive hi-maintenance flex hose and electric power. An engine driven blower would be nice, I've spent some time thinking about that but nothing yet..
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2018, 08:00:33 PM »
I like how meadows puts an arbor driven blower on their portable mills
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2018, 08:06:32 PM »
That would take some HP away from the band drive for sure though.  I like being able to use mine as a giant vacuum, not to mention it also is on the moulder and planner, soon to be on the edger,  so having it run on electric has it's advantages too. 
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2018, 10:05:25 PM »
They could put an engine big enough on to accomodate for that though
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2018, 10:59:00 PM »
Yea - but then you would just unhook the blower and saw faster.   :D
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2018, 11:38:43 PM »
Yea - but then you would just unhook the blower and saw faster.   :D
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2018, 02:00:22 AM »
Whats broken on the debarker?
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2018, 07:26:33 AM »
the motor crapped out on it.  They sent new motor and when I went to take the sheave off of thw old one that some buck welded itself onto it.  I tried heat, hamburgers and onions.  It finally came off but it was messed up.  I filed it back to how it should be but now the roll pin hole is enlargened and not a tight fit and wont keep a roll pin in there anyways.  So I just asked them to send me new.  They took my $ and held it captive for weeks while the sheave has been backordered.  
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 07:44:58 AM »
Is there room for a taper lock pulley?

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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 09:30:56 AM »
I assume you are speaking of the in/out motor and not the business unit. I had lots of problems with the in/out mechanism on my 2003. About 5 years ago I switched over to an air cylinder and a screen door closer for in/out./ It has worked very well for me. It has been refined since this vid(was still developing/refining). I use the stationary house air compressor(big unit) and an airline through the cat track that now supplies air pressure though a regulator to my air bladder for blade tensioning.

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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 09:44:31 AM »
Now I'm ruined.  I get to go use my very nice LT35 at about half that speed!   :D  That's some nice sawmill!
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2018, 06:18:03 PM »
So Im looking at the dust extractor, and the greenchain on the outfeed side, and a few other changes I see you've made since the last "how it fits together show" and I got to say it's starting to look like a sawmill mate. Thats a pretty impressive demonstration of the real world capacity of that mill, and you've got some flow happening: theres a whole lot of capacity increase happens just with that flow increase and I imagine you're getting a whole lot more work for a whole lot less effort because of it. Congratulations!

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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2018, 07:36:22 PM »
lmao thanks LL!  

Next is a Hurdle mill with 3 blade vertical edger.  Already put deposit down on one.  1995 mill.  Just waiting for the loan stuff to clear.
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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2018, 02:18:17 AM »
I've seen tubevids of the hurdle in action: they're a producer if you got the right logs to feed it. Of course you'll end up right back where you were before in terms of needing a whole whack of expanded support gear to make it run at capacity but.... thats what we do right? Everything the hard way until we bed it down then off on the next expansion :D

I had a guy was a bit of a mentor to me in another industry years ago. His advice was "bite off more then you can chew then chew like hell before it chokes you". He never mentioned the indigestion that comes with it at times, but nothing ventured nothing gained and all that. I'm just about back on my feet after that hiding at the start of the year, and when any sane person would be consolidating just to take a breather I'm bidding blocks of timberland that I've got no idea how I'd process the volumes, but guaranteed supply is the best kind of problem IMHO. 

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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2018, 07:25:40 AM »
4x4 Was that the mill you told me about?
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2018, 08:05:07 AM »
lmao thanks LL!  

Next is a Hurdle mill with 3 blade vertical edger.  Already put deposit down on one.  1995 mill.  Just waiting for the loan stuff to clear.
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2018, 09:21:27 AM »
lmao thanks LL!  

Next is a Hurdle mill with 3 blade vertical edger.  Already put deposit down on one.  1995 mill.  Just waiting for the loan stuff to clear.

OH MY!!!! This is just the cheapo 2 blade version....


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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2018, 11:18:48 AM »
Now that will be a real sewing machine! 
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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2018, 12:16:01 PM »
Hope you can get it set up about 8' off the ground as this solves many problems.

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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2018, 09:40:55 PM »
You gonna get a debarker and metal detector? What happens if you hit metal with one them blades?
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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2018, 10:11:28 PM »
Hope you can get it set up about 8' off the ground as this solves many problems.
Elevated construction sure makes life easy but the setup $ hurts. Pays in the long term though.
I've been tossing my "one day" greenmill setup around in my head for years, which involves a series of benches cut into the side of a hill. Log yard at the top, head saw on the first bench, resaw on the next one down, then drop a level to docker or edger or whatever, final level being stacking area and an open yard behind it for storage. Gravity assisted chains going down the hill from station to station etc etc Bays probably 25' wide which makes for cheap shed construction, floor bench levels say 5' elevation difference... but you could recess back into the next bench up for sawdust extraction including walk beside access to the scraper chains or to get at the bottom wheel of a big vertical band etc.
I saw the original idea in a US Forest Service or similar article from the 50's or so about mill layouts and I never have been able to find that article again.... but I remembered thinking how sensible it was to make use of gravity to flow your material, and being able to get at the underside of gear without either a pit that wants to fill with water when it rains or the one time cost of elevated construction. The big problem with elevated construction aside from cost being of course that you kinda gotta start with a plan and its pretty hard to vary from it once you've installed the first piece of gear.
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2018, 07:43:04 AM »
You gonna get a debarker and metal detector? What happens if you hit metal with one them blades?
Gonna try to get my neighbors debarker..mainly for exporting logs though but will also use it for tie logs or really dirty logs.  If you hit metal you just change the couple bits that got nicked and keep going.  Can swadge them later on to reuse.  
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2018, 07:44:50 AM »
4x4 Was that the mill you told me about?
Most likely..I been thinking about getting one for a couple years.  I tried to convice the pallet guy to buy one a few years back and have me run it but he said heís in the biz of making pallets not sawing lumber.  He has a scragg mill though
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2018, 07:46:34 AM »
Is there room for a taper lock pulley?
Room for it where and for what?  There is an unused pulley on the arbor
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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2018, 09:00:12 AM »
Is there room for a taper lock pulley?
Room for it where and for what?  There is an unused pulley on the arbor
Though you said a pulley was roll pinned on a shaft and failed.      Will this be the first hurdle in n.y.s.?

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« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2018, 09:14:39 AM »
 4x4, the last time I watched an automatic carriage/ vertical edger run they dropped everything on a belt that ended into the mouth of a chipper. Two men pulled the lumber off this belt and never touched the slabs or sticks. More than once I have passed up buying a v. edger because I often saw alone so I accumulate flitch boards and edge latter. Sawing with a v. edger slows the sawyer down some but is much more productive.

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« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2018, 10:01:44 AM »
Hurdle makes tie mills, they have one purpose rip a 7x9 out of the log as fast as possible,  and ties have a tolerance of +/- 1/4". Maybe a good reason you don't see any in the land of high dollar hardwood.
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« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2018, 10:14:23 PM »
I would agree, JB, that a 40í 2HB Hurdle is mainly a tie mill, yes.  They also make 48í 3HB and 60í 4HB mills that are designed for more than just ties, like pallet cants, crane mats, grade, primary breakdown feeding a resaw/gang, dimension lumber, etc.  Having a 3
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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2018, 10:22:13 PM »
moodna crick I like that idear..except for 2 things..if they miss a good piece, kiss it goodbye.  Maybe one of the pullers needs to take a leak and the sawyer donít notice.  It wonít accumulate on a green chain, itíll just be chipper food.  I like the idea of having a slab dump at the end trimmer.  That way the end trimmings and the slabs find their way to the chipper in one spot, and the trimmer main gives you more bang for your buck, and gives sawyer one less thing to keep track of.  I know of multiple guys who saw solo with a vertical edger, and they love it.  Itís two steps instead of three, saw cab, green chain, saw cab, green chain...cut lumber in one shot from the saw cab. niice
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2018, 10:42:33 AM »
4x4, none of the products you mentioned demand much in the of accuracy.  For example,  pallet cants down here +/- 1/4" unless they get picky on us, crane mat timbers +/- 1/2" and don't even have to be all that square, grade +/- 1/8" unless its a special order, primary breakdown just take the bark off and make it squareish, dimension lumber all gets run thru a 4 head moulder anyway. 

As you can see WAY different specs in the south where those mills are made.
2000 LT40hyd remote 33hp Kubota, 160 Prentice, Frick 2 saw gang edger, Wright W-37 ABG, Suffolk dual tooth setter, Cat claw single tooth setter,'96 F-250 7.3 PSD 4x4, CS-590 Echo, MF 20c, M681 Memo.

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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2018, 11:00:00 AM »
When we get an order for bridge timbers we saw them on the the Dominator cause the meadows can't hold the +/-0 tolerance they want.
2000 LT40hyd remote 33hp Kubota, 160 Prentice, Frick 2 saw gang edger, Wright W-37 ABG, Suffolk dual tooth setter, Cat claw single tooth setter,'96 F-250 7.3 PSD 4x4, CS-590 Echo, MF 20c, M681 Memo.

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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2018, 03:58:20 PM »
4x4; the sawyer would have a push button or foot pedal to stop/start the belt. [I have a overhead lever] I could never figure out a way to handle v. edger output on my set up.    Am very interested in your project.                        P.S. The old timers always called it the 'crick'.

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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2018, 05:07:22 PM »
Do they have a linebar? You can do a lot to improve dimensional tolerance if you have a linebar: SOP here with this springy eucalypt stuff is to vary the pressure on your carriage knees against the linebar to compensate for log spring, which gets rid of a lot of the thick and thin issues that cause dimensional variations.

https://www.fwpa.com.au/images/processing/PNB291-1112A_processing_methods_for_SW_products_euc_plantations.pdf

diagram on page 15.

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« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2018, 05:59:41 PM »
Yea Iím not really worried about it for what Iím doing..what I mainly cut is cants grade and ties.  None of which have to be perfect.  The pallet shop I sell to now sends the important size cants through a sizer first anyways. 
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