The Forestry Forum is sponsored in part by:

iDRY Vacuum Kilns


Forestry Forum
Sponsored by:


TimberKing Sawmills



Toll Free 1-800-582-0470

LogRite Tools



Norwood Industries Inc.


Sawmill & Woodlot Magazine



Your source for Portable Sawmills, Edgers, Resaws, Sharpeners, Setters, Bandsaw Blades and Sawmill Parts

EZ Boardwalk Sawmills. More Saw For Less Money!

STIHLDealers.com sponsored by Northeast STIHL


Woodland Sawmills

Peterson Swingmills

 KASCO SharpTech WoodMaxx Blades

Turbosawmill

Sawmill Exchange

Michigan Firewood, your BRUTE FORCE Authorized Dealer

FARMA


Council Tool

Baker Products

ECHO-Bearcat

iDRY Wood Lumber Vacuum Drying for everyon




Author Topic: Who uses yellow pages  (Read 1430 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Crossroads

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 725
  • Age: 48
  • Location: Plummer Idaho
  • Gender: Male
  • letís make some sawdust
    • Share Post
    • Kevin Bales faith family farm and portable sawmill
Who uses yellow pages
« on: November 01, 2018, 04:56:01 AM »
A friend of mine told me that when he started a tree service business a few years back, he paid for one add in the yellow Pages and his phone is still ringing from that add. I have a website and use Craigslist and Facebook, but since Iíve moved to Idaho my phone has been dead quiet. What are your thoughts? Have you used the yellow Pages and did it work for you?
2017 LT40 wide, Kubota l185dt, 2-036 stihl, 2001 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummins

Online Jeff

  • Fearless Leader
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 47083
  • Age: 57
  • Location: Harrison MI
  • Gender: Male
  • I intend to live forever ... So far, so good.
    • Share Post
    • THEE Forestry Forum
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 05:15:38 AM »
When is the last time you personally looked in the yellow pages for anything? Or even a phonebook?  We treat phone books around here like junk mail now. File 13.
Just call me the midget doctor.
Forestry Forum Founder and Chief Bottle Washer.

Commercial circle sawmill sawyer in a past life.

Offline DWyatt

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 77
  • Age: 25
  • Location: NW Ohio
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 07:18:02 AM »
My boss who's ~65 will be sitting at his computer in his office and holler for the secretary to bring him the phone book to look someone up (also does the same with the dictionary and thesaurus :D). Even with the amount of technology today, there are some that still use the phone book.

I am not one of them, internet all the way.

Offline YellowHammer

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 3406
  • Age: 53
  • Location: New Market, Alabama
  • Gender: Male
  • Always taking steps to save steps
    • Share Post
    • Hobby Hardwood Alabama
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 07:30:57 AM »
I bet itís been 10 years since Iíve even looked at a paper phone book.  

Many years ago I placed an add in the local electronic Yellow Pages, which is the same as the paper version, but I donít think it did anything.  I would have starved if I had relied on it.  In contrast, we get many thousand web hits a week, about half from first time visitors to the site.  If even 1% of those hits turn into new customers, itís a good day.  

So, in my experience, much more productive are web sites, FB, CL, etc, places where high volume electronic searches can find you. If you have an on line version of the Yellow Pages, then Google would find it.  

HobbyHardwoodAlabama.com

Offline terrifictimbersllc

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 4202
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Mystic, CT
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
    • Terrific Timbers LLC
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 07:42:23 AM »
Early on I talked with YP callers several times.  They wanted a couple hundred per month then to list me.  

Now I tell callers that my budget for advertising is $15 per month. I haven't yet had anyone with a good comeback for that line.  :D

Seriously I think the most effective and least expensive avenue is to optimize the keyword attributes on your web pages to make sure that your website comes up in the top half of the first internet search page for someone searching in your area. Maybe some here can tell you how to do it yourself. I would try some of this for you but since I'm not in your area I wouldn't trust the results.

Something I also did for a while and suggest you might consider is  enrolling with Google in their pay per click advertising.  It is not that expensive and you can easily control how much you spend.

When I was doing it, that program lets you deposit some money (say $100), then choose how much you are willing to spend each day, for example $1-$2 per day, and they charge you per click for those who click on your ad. You make a little 4 line ad for this program which will appear at the top of the search page each day until the daily budget is exhausted.  You can choose your area of advertising by different methods such as your state, etc, AND you can also draw a map to define where the searchers must come from.   This keeps people from the rest of the world from clicking  on it and costing you 35 or whatever cents.  :)

DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT   2001 WM LT40SHDD (42HP Kubota, Accuset2, FAO's, Lubemizer, debarker, hydraulics everywhere), Peterson WPF 10-30 with chain slabber. Logrite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.

Offline FloridaMike

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 72
  • Age: 57
  • Location: Floral City, FL
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2018, 08:07:28 AM »
....
Seriously I think the most effective and least expensive avenue is to optimize the keyword attributes on your web pages to make sure that your website comes up in the top half of the first internet search page for someone searching in your area.

Something I also did for a while and suggest you might consider is  enrolling with Google in their pay per click advertising.  It is not that expensive and you can easily control how much you spend.
....
This is the best advice available! 
Do a search from someone else's computer ("sawmills in YOUR TOWN & STATE"), if you are not in the first 2 pages of results... your web site is not working for you.
Mike

Offline Magicman

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 36840
  • Age: 75
  • Location: Brookhaven, MS
  • Gender: Male
  • A "Traveling Man"
    • Share Post
    • Knothole Sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2018, 08:13:14 AM »
Absolutely internet search.  25 years ago Yellow Pages was the go-to way to search but not in today's world.
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Offline Raider Bill

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 7055
  • Location: S.E. Tenn & Floridas Gulf Coast
  • Gender: Male
  • Who will pull the wagon when everyone rides?
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2018, 08:22:05 AM »
I still run a YP ad every year although it's toned down a bunch. Reason is here in Florida many of the older population still reach for it and it still has a positive return for us.
I am not in the sawmill or wood business.
The First 60 years of childhood is always the hardest.

Offline Resonator

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 324
  • Age: 43
  • Location: Woods near Wausau, WI
  • Gender: Male
  • Board Footage and Cord Woodage
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2018, 08:37:58 AM »
Fewer and fewer do use it, many new houses don't even have land lines to be listed. The first phone book was only one page. Ahoy, Ahoy! Alexander Graham Bell here... no, no my number is 1, you must want 2. Two I say!
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

Proud owner of a Wood-Mizer 2017 LT28G19

Offline Magicman

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 36840
  • Age: 75
  • Location: Brookhaven, MS
  • Gender: Male
  • A "Traveling Man"
    • Share Post
    • Knothole Sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2018, 08:43:14 AM »
Phone books are as scarce as pay phones but they both served well during their time.  :o
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Offline thecfarm

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 27482
  • Age: 57
  • Location: Chesterville,Maine
  • Gender: Male
  • If I don't do it,it don't get done
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2018, 08:44:56 AM »
Superman has no place to change now. :o 
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Offline terrifictimbersllc

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 4202
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Mystic, CT
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
    • Terrific Timbers LLC
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2018, 08:48:01 AM »
In Maine he can change wherever he wants :)
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT   2001 WM LT40SHDD (42HP Kubota, Accuset2, FAO's, Lubemizer, debarker, hydraulics everywhere), Peterson WPF 10-30 with chain slabber. Logrite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.

Offline thecfarm

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 27482
  • Age: 57
  • Location: Chesterville,Maine
  • Gender: Male
  • If I don't do it,it don't get done
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2018, 08:49:06 AM »
He better do it quick in January. :D   :o
Model 6020-20hp Manual Thomas bandsaw,TC40A 4wd 40 hp New Holland tractor, 450 Norse Winch, Heatmor 400 OWB,YCC 1978-79

Offline Crossroads

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 725
  • Age: 48
  • Location: Plummer Idaho
  • Gender: Male
  • letís make some sawdust
    • Share Post
    • Kevin Bales faith family farm and portable sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2018, 09:02:10 AM »
Hmmm. I never even thought to mention that I was talking about the electronic version. I hadnít thought of my friends story until last night when I was trying to do a search for my business and the electronic YP came up. Thank you for the input
2017 LT40 wide, Kubota l185dt, 2-036 stihl, 2001 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummins

Offline Magicman

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 36840
  • Age: 75
  • Location: Brookhaven, MS
  • Gender: Male
  • A "Traveling Man"
    • Share Post
    • Knothole Sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2018, 09:34:07 AM »
I searched for a portable sawmill in Idaho and quickly found you.  Maybe this time of year folks are more concerned with getting their firewood than having logs sawn into lumber.

Are you listed on Wood-Mizer's Pro Sawyer Network?
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Offline Percy

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 2094
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Terrace B.C. Canada
  • Gender: Male
  • Resident trouble maker
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2018, 10:08:56 AM »
Phone books are as scarce as pay phones but they both served well during their time.  :o
I think  the muscle guys tore them all in half..... ;D ;D
GOLDEN RULE : The guy with the gold, makes the rules.

Offline terrifictimbersllc

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 4202
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Mystic, CT
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
    • Terrific Timbers LLC
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2018, 10:21:08 AM »
Google searches

"portable sawmill idaho".  you're in the top few hits
"mobile sawmill idaho" ditto
"portable sawmill plummer idaho". first hit
"logs to lumber idaho". don't see you anywhere

When I try these searches I think of a lot of different words , also I ask customers how they found me or ask others what words they would use, this gives more ideas. I put such keywords into the appropriate place on my website, at a place which search engines search, it's been a while
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT   2001 WM LT40SHDD (42HP Kubota, Accuset2, FAO's, Lubemizer, debarker, hydraulics everywhere), Peterson WPF 10-30 with chain slabber. Logrite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.

Offline KirkD

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 262
  • Age: 61
  • Location: Pleasant Hill and Crescent, Oregon
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2018, 11:24:18 AM »
Hmmm. I never even thought to mention that I was talking about the electronic version. I hadnít thought of my friends story until last night when I was trying to do a search for my business and the electronic YP came up. Thank you for the input
Yes yp.com is alive and well and works good if your looking for something local or regional. Will they let you do an ad in just the electronic version?
Wood-mizer LT40HD-G24 Year 1989

Offline Crossroads

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 725
  • Age: 48
  • Location: Plummer Idaho
  • Gender: Male
  • letís make some sawdust
    • Share Post
    • Kevin Bales faith family farm and portable sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2018, 11:27:05 AM »
You could very well be right MM. I am listed in the Woodmizer pro Sawyers page. Thank you and Denise also, for taking the time to run those searches. Itís very much appreciated.....
2017 LT40 wide, Kubota l185dt, 2-036 stihl, 2001 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummins

Offline Crossroads

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 725
  • Age: 48
  • Location: Plummer Idaho
  • Gender: Male
  • letís make some sawdust
    • Share Post
    • Kevin Bales faith family farm and portable sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2018, 11:27:50 AM »
Hmmm. I never even thought to mention that I was talking about the electronic version. I hadnít thought of my friends story until last night when I was trying to do a search for my business and the electronic YP came up. Thank you for the input
Yes yp.com is alive and well and works good if your looking for something local or regional. Will they let you do an ad in just the electronic version?
I believe so
2017 LT40 wide, Kubota l185dt, 2-036 stihl, 2001 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummins

Offline maple flats

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1962
  • Age: 72
  • Location: Oneida, NY
  • Gender: Male
  • Life is what you make it!
    • Share Post
    • Dave and Joan's sugarhouse web site
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 02:00:08 PM »
I think the last time I had an ad in the YP it was about 1994 or so. In the 80's it paid, but slowed too much in the 90's.
Get a website and then buy a "shameless link" on this forum. That will get you hits, but also search your site using Google or any other popular search engine and scroll down until you find your site, then click on it. Each time it gets clicked on your site will move up in the list. A few years ago, I actually did that for about 10 minutes every day, clicking on my site, then closing it and searching again over and over again for almost a month. At that point my site was showing up on the first page. Since then I have had all the business I want and have not done it again.
If you are in a business selling a service or product to the public.
Raider Bill's experience may be different because so many of his clients are senior citizens who grew up with the YP.
logging small time for years but just learning how,  2012 36 HP Mahindra tractor, 3point log arch, 8000# class excavator, lifts 2500# and sets logs on mill precisely where needed,  Peterson ATS upgraded to WPF mill, maple syrup a hobby that consumes my time. looking to learn blacksmithing.

Online Jeff

  • Fearless Leader
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 47083
  • Age: 57
  • Location: Harrison MI
  • Gender: Male
  • I intend to live forever ... So far, so good.
    • Share Post
    • THEE Forestry Forum
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 02:06:59 PM »
Maple flats,  clicking on the link pretty much only moves it up the list for you unless many many people are clicking on your link too, or as you said, you are linked to a popular site like the Forestry Forum.  Most of the search engines return information relative to what it thinks you are interested in. It uses your internet search history to remember these things and return what it "thinks" you would want to see first. It kinda works, because you want to see your site higher in the rankings. You may think your are doing better than you are unless you are searching with a completely clean cache. No cookies, no history, and going signing into google and deleting your search history there to if you happen to have an account (android users have to have one)
Just call me the midget doctor.
Forestry Forum Founder and Chief Bottle Washer.

Commercial circle sawmill sawyer in a past life.

Offline terrifictimbersllc

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 4202
  • Age: 64
  • Location: Mystic, CT
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
    • Terrific Timbers LLC
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 04:11:44 PM »
scroll down until you find your site, then click on it.
Just don't click on your own Google ads!!! :D :D :D
DJ Hoover, Terrific Timbers LLC,  Mystic CT   2001 WM LT40SHDD (42HP Kubota, Accuset2, FAO's, Lubemizer, debarker, hydraulics everywhere), Peterson WPF 10-30 with chain slabber. Logrite fetching arch, WM BMS250 sharpener/BMT250 setter.

Offline maple flats

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1962
  • Age: 72
  • Location: Oneida, NY
  • Gender: Male
  • Life is what you make it!
    • Share Post
    • Dave and Joan's sugarhouse web site
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2018, 09:59:25 AM »
It worked for me about 10 yrs ago, shortly after I set up my first website. I did not have nor never had a Google ad, likely never will, I'm just trying to get the spam calls from Google and everyone else to stop.
Must be I was just seeing it move up on my computer. I guess I was fooled. On the other hand, an ad in the Forestry Forum truly does help, since so many use the forum it seems to multiply your results. Even for people just doing a search and the answer is on the FF which happens frequently.
On that subject, I have at times run a search for maple related questions only to see a post I made on a maple site as the first answer to the question. That makes me smile but does little to help me research a topic.
logging small time for years but just learning how,  2012 36 HP Mahindra tractor, 3point log arch, 8000# class excavator, lifts 2500# and sets logs on mill precisely where needed,  Peterson ATS upgraded to WPF mill, maple syrup a hobby that consumes my time. looking to learn blacksmithing.

Offline hturner12

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 88
  • Age: 59
  • Location: Middle Georgia
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2018, 07:34:11 PM »
When you are  setting up you keyword search do not forget common misspelled  words
Hugh
Ezbordwalk Jr

Offline Crossroads

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 725
  • Age: 48
  • Location: Plummer Idaho
  • Gender: Male
  • letís make some sawdust
    • Share Post
    • Kevin Bales faith family farm and portable sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2018, 11:11:26 PM »
When you are  setting up you keyword search do not forget common misspelled  words
Oh, Iím a pro at miss spelled words lol good point though!
2017 LT40 wide, Kubota l185dt, 2-036 stihl, 2001 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummins

Offline hturner12

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 88
  • Age: 59
  • Location: Middle Georgia
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2018, 03:50:32 AM »
With stupid auto correct and this what I think you want we all are
Hugh
Ezbordwalk Jr

Offline PA_Walnut

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 803
  • Location: Lancaster, PA area.
  • Gender: Male
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #27 on: November 09, 2018, 05:49:06 AM »
Phone books make great fire starter. Those thin, crinkly pages wad-up nicely and give much enjoyment as you tear the pages one-by-one to throw on the fire. smiley_clapping
I own my own small piece of the world on an 8 acre plot on the side of a mountain with walnut, hickory, ash and spruce.
LT40HD Wide 35HP Diesel
Baker Portable Edger with Kubota Diesel
Kubota M62 Tractor/Backhoe
WoodMizer KD250 Kiln

Offline Magicman

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 36840
  • Age: 75
  • Location: Brookhaven, MS
  • Gender: Male
  • A "Traveling Man"
    • Share Post
    • Knothole Sawmill
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2018, 07:06:30 AM »
Now that's a terrible waste of valuable toilet tissue.  :o
Knothole Sawmill, LLC     '98 Wood-Mizer LT40SuperHydraulic   WM Million BF Club Member   WM Pro Sawyer Network

Never allow your "need" to make money to exceed your "desire" to provide quality service.....The Magicman

Offline hturner12

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 88
  • Age: 59
  • Location: Middle Georgia
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm new!
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #29 on: November 09, 2018, 08:17:43 AM »
Now that's a terrible waste of valuable toilet tissue.  :o

I would think it would be kinda  rough on the hiney
Hugh
Ezbordwalk Jr

Offline Sixacresand

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 1939
  • Age: 69
  • Location: Gordon, Georgia
  • Gender: Male
  • John and Nancy
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2018, 08:18:35 AM »
If your business comes up on a internet search, such as yellow pages, you should look at the information and make sure it is correct and current.  If not, you can "claim the ad" and update it.  If you have been in business many years, things about your business may have changed.  

Offline Raider Bill

  • Senior Member x2
  • *****
  • Posts: 7055
  • Location: S.E. Tenn & Floridas Gulf Coast
  • Gender: Male
  • Who will pull the wagon when everyone rides?
    • Share Post
Re: Who uses yellow pages
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2018, 09:31:20 AM »
Now that's a terrible waste of valuable toilet tissue.  :o
A few months ago one on my low rent units called for a plugged toilet. Sure enough they were using a telephone book for TP.
The First 60 years of childhood is always the hardest.


Share via delicious Share via digg Share via facebook Share via linkedin Share via pinterest Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via tumblr Share via twitter

xx
Advertising in the Yellow Pages

Started by Captain on Sawmills and Milling

18 Replies
4152 Views
Last post January 24, 2003, 10:21:16 AM
by dewwood
xx
Got Yellow Poplar and Southern Yellow Pine...Which One, Or Both?

Started by Woodmonkey on Timber Framing/Log construction

6 Replies
1632 Views
Last post April 16, 2016, 09:49:49 PM
by ChrisGermany
xx
weather pages

Started by redpowerd on General Board

15 Replies
2138 Views
Last post August 02, 2004, 11:50:19 PM
by Roxie
xx
New profile pages ;D

Started by sprucebunny on Technical Support Topics

4 Replies
1499 Views
Last post January 15, 2006, 10:39:53 AM
by Jeff
 


Powered by EzPortal