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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #60 on: January 12, 2019, 07:41:38 PM »
Oh my, I remember the times when if we had not eaten squirrel, we would not have eaten.  They were the only thing between us and hungry.  Squirrel, rabbits, and bullfrogs.  We carried the possums and coons to the sharecropper because that family needed to eat too.

There were no deer and turkeys back then which was in the 50's.
I got out of the service and returned to Missouri, where, in the first deer season I had been in, I killed a doe.  Within a week I received letters from the county judge congratulating me for the first deer killed in the county since the '30's.  Paper ran an article on it.  The south ate dang near all the critters going into the '40's.
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2019, 08:22:02 PM »
Southside. there is one wood screw in each feeder in a couple of elm trees.  If I mill (and i hope they stand for the next 25 years so I won't) them, I know where the metal is.  if not, some other poor bass tard will have to change a blade. lol.   do you have a better suggestion???  .   :D  .  These are in my back yard.  We love to watch and it entertains our dogs as well.  if times are tough, we at least have a nest egg of meat.  I almost feel I owe it to my dad to try it.   fudd-smiley
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2019, 09:55:35 PM »
do you have a better suggestion??


I have read on these very pages of someone who was being paid to have a log sawn and when the sawyer struck metal and was adding up the cost of the replacement bands, that he admitted he was the one to put the metal in the trees!!  So just saying.....  Maybe someone can come up with a hard poly / plastic screw that would work in such an application.  Won't be a structural solution but it could "save the planet" - or in the very least prevent a few bad words from being mumbled after the loud "Zing".  arg-smiley

Oh and it's Elm!!  Man oh man - that band is gonna climb like the squirrel with your dog in hot pursuit after that strike!!   :D
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« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2019, 11:08:32 PM »
gotcha!!!  great idea on the poly screw.


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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2019, 01:18:35 AM »
Drywall augers.  They also work great to replace all your missing pop fastener in the fenderwell or on you broken ATV fenders
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2019, 08:55:54 AM »
I have put screws in trees to hold feeders!

I check them once in a while and if they start to imbed, I get my cordless and back them out a couple turns or move them to another spot!
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2019, 07:09:14 AM »
On jan 12 I took photos of deer crossing the ice 2 km away. I knew they were headed to our homestead. Jan 18 they landed in our field to yard for the winter. Hopefully more is on their way. We usually have 10 to 15 deer. Next summer I am hoping to make a food plot and a guy up the road is shooting coyotes. Hopefully we will increase the herd. Here is a documentary of the deer in my area.  I don't feed by putting one pile of apples.  The deer here have access to rose hips, apple orchard and grass,  Next year I will plant several acres of chicory, cloves and turnip. This will help the deer because it is spread over several acres.  

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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #67 on: January 21, 2019, 12:32:04 PM »
Anyone going to any hinge cutting for food end of Jan or Feb  .
I am planning some edge cutting and some bedding areas.
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #68 on: January 21, 2019, 12:55:26 PM »
Hinge cut now.  The deer need all the food they can find to survive.  Maple and black gum are among their favorites.  Oaks will do, poplar they wont touch. 
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #69 on: January 21, 2019, 03:08:53 PM »
  Strange about your deer not eating poplar. They love the leaves when I cut them here in the summer. The old does will even park their fawns in the tops and limbs where they are close when they are eating. I never noticed if they ate the tips or such but I assumed they did. My mule and horse strip the bark off the poplar, ash and some basswood tops and limbs I dragged down last week.

   I throw hay out to the horse and mule every day and am surprised the deer don't touch that but they are browsers not grazers so they don't care for the grass in the hay. The turkeys will be going through it in the next few weeks getting seeds and worms. 
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« Reply #70 on: January 21, 2019, 07:37:17 PM »
A nice score today. We have a restaurant right next door,we share the same dumpster. I went to throw something away and saw 2 boxes of apples!!! I would guess 2 bushels. They won't last long,but they will enjoy the apples.
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« Reply #71 on: January 21, 2019, 08:07:04 PM »
Poplar bark is known as a natural wormer for cattle and horses, I would guess the same is true for deer. 
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #72 on: January 21, 2019, 09:38:52 PM »
   The leaves are preferred feed when they are green too.
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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #73 on: January 21, 2019, 10:15:56 PM »
Its probably like firewood, people with oak wont bend over to pick up a piece of pine.  Go to the NW and its normal heating wood.  I imagine deer tastebuds are regional.  I hinge cut a lot of material and really made a study of activity the past two years.  Gum, sourwood and red maple get chewed to nubs in my yard.  Ive never seen a poplar hingecut with a bud missing.  Theyve all grown to have multi leaders popping up along the trunk.  

As for grasses, they feed in the pasture behind me every evening once acorns are gone.  If thats snowed/iced over then i see branch tips get hammered on my hingecuts.  

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Re: Feeding of the deer
« Reply #74 on: January 25, 2019, 12:59:25 PM »
do you have a better suggestion??


Raptor, Senco, and maybe a few others make a nail gun that will shoot composite nails and staples. They're great for the spoil board on a CNC, not to having to worry about running a tool into metal is a nice feature. They can be cut and sanded with damaging anything.
 
They aren't real cheap so a person probably wouldn't buy one without having another reason to.


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« Reply #75 on: January 25, 2019, 01:45:37 PM »
thanks jem

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« Reply #76 on: January 25, 2019, 02:02:31 PM »
While I won't reveal my opinion here on feeding deer and other wildlife-and I also think that opinion will be obvious-I will say-I am surprised to see so many "foresters" excited about deer.  In my world, they are nothing but a scourge, affecting the composition of forests in a vastly negative way, now that their numbers are so artificially boosted by civilization.

Here in Wisconsin, our deer herd-even on so-called "off years"-is far, far higher than what the land can carry, and much higher than at time of Euro-settlement.  At least insofar as not damaging that land.  Right back to forest composition.

You guys really think deer need  you "feeding" them, huh?  I'm not here to necessarily make friends, but rather, to exchange info and ideas.  As an idea goes, I think feeding deer is a poor one.  So do most deer experts.  Maybe not into experts here?

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« Reply #77 on: January 25, 2019, 03:07:35 PM »
I think most guys here enjoy nature.  I think some feed animals to be able to see them and enjoy them.  some are feeding deer to compensate for civilization and the habitat that is lost.  some do it to get them in close for the sport of using a bow, or muzzle loader to harvest and control the populations, as well as to put meat in the freezer.  We are all part of the ecosystem.  I believe in protecting resources and picking up after myself.  The bit of corn put out by some, does not compare with the wide open fields of hay, alfalfa, corn ect.  They are already depending on human grown food.




 




 


Was just helping my buddy Dallas build a deer blind for next years bow season.  Still have to replace my right truck door, after the third deer in a group ran into the side of my truck! smiley_cry.   Tom, I appreciate your point of view.  Experts are great, but so many of them have the point of view, and then get into research and become experts.  Global warming is a good example.  Obama passed regs. that did not allow grants to go to persons not trying to prove GW.

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« Reply #78 on: January 25, 2019, 03:13:47 PM »
"Obama" did no such thing.  Presidents don't sit on science advisory councils, as a general rule.  But more importantly, there are no actual scientists disputing the topic in the way you suggest in your post.  And we've said that roughly one million times now-but I'm sure we'll be saying it many more times.

"Feeding deer" is one of the primary means by which CWD is spreading in places like Wisconsin, full of folks who "love wildlife" and somehow miss the "wild" part.  Oh, and "civilization" is not diminishing habitat for such generalist species as white-tailed deer.  Just the opposite-it has greatly expanded their opportunities....which I did mention in my previous, apparently unread or unbelieved post.

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« Reply #79 on: January 25, 2019, 03:25:08 PM »
The deer will gather at the bog or where I am feeding them. Take your pick.My maybe 5-8 pounds a night does not go far with 20-30 deer either.
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