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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2019, 10:53:48 AM »
This is the setup, through the head, square tubing with hole cut it top front section, just hand fit perfectly between the bottom of main beam and top of pins chain just runs through the channel not fixed to the head in any way no rollers etc.  I just drop the sprocket down and it engages the chain and the head goes along for the ride.  Its as simple as a ten speed gear change on a bicycle.  No worry of sensors blown fuses, fried this or that just simple, keep it simple and easy to fix.

 

 

 
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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2019, 10:57:40 AM »
Sideburnz, I too am fairly new to the forum as well, though I do follow the conversations quite a bit. I run a Norwood HD-36 on the east coast of New Jersey, a bit south of Toms River. My mill is all manual and I use it for mostly home projects and some dinner money for the wife and I. This mill cuts 28" wide, and will handle a log about 34" in diameter at about 12' long. I've done full 28" wide cuts without any worries. I seen that you've been looking into Woodmizer and they do make excellent mills. I've researched about 20 mill companies and they all are really good in their own ways. I went with the Norwood only because it seemed to fit all the features that I was looking for. If you wanted to swing by and take a look at mine maybe even try it out, your more than welcome.

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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2019, 11:12:25 AM »
I was looking to buy a used manual mill or one of the really cheap new ones. Hydraulics were way out of my ballpark. Figured I'd be driving at least 5 hours if I bought a used one. I wasn't planning to mill really big logs and my dad has a tractor with loader so didn't seem like it should be a real big deal.

And then miraculously I stumbled on an old Timberking B-16 right here in town that had been sitting in the weeds for 12 or more years. It has hydraulic feed, loader, clamp and turner. Raising/lowering the head and backstops are still manual. It took a lot of work and some money to get it back in shape again but I sure do appreciate having those hydraulics.

I most appreciate the turner. I can't help but smile every time there's a 2-3000 pound log on the mill and I can roll it wherever I want. Can't imagine trying to turn them by hand. Hydraulic backstops and head up/down would be really nice too but I'll take what I can get.

I need to replace one of the lift cylinders so I've been loading logs manually with a skid loader (soon learned my dad's tractor didn't have enough lift capacity). It works but is a  little dicey. A loading deck would be nice.

If I'd gotten a small manual mill I'm sure I would have adapted and gotten along ok but having a larger hydraulic mill makes a lot more things possible. In just the little while I've been doing this I'm surprised how many logs I've sawn that have maxed out the mills capacity. With a smaller mill I either wouldn't have been milling them or spending a lot more time and effort to manually break them down beforehand.

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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2019, 03:33:22 PM »
I run a lt15 start with 14hp and have never been underpowered on cutting anything oak, pine, or cypress or even steel log stop!  I just bought a used bed section and now it will cut 14' no trouble.  I fitted mine with power feed for the @#$##@ of it to see if I could do it but with a good blade it really is easy to push the head.  As far as turning a log on the bed I thought about building a log turner but I have cant hook large and small and just a few squirts of ATF on the bunks and a log turns no sweat so I think a turner is off the drawing board.  One thing that is needed is rollers on the stops.  It does great for what I got it for my own use and not production or business.  It is perfect for my pocketbook and making the wife happy.  The log holders are simple to use and I made a bunch using old pony clamps, the screw tops hold great and the bottom slides hold the cant and keep them from sliding on the bed. I think I paid 6K from dealer new no shi
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 pping.  I am impressed by woodmizer though I would change a few things Which I will do eventually.

Thats great to hear!  The pony clamps are a great idea, Id never have thought of it probably because its so simple.  I think were probably back to looking at the Lt15 start.  Maybe the regular lt15 if I can convince the CFO

I also kinda like the idea of making some modifications.  I like to tinker and problem solve

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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2019, 05:10:38 PM »
I just "saw"  :D this thread.  My wife and I have 40 acres not too far from you in NY.  12446 zipcode, mid-Hudson Valley.
I didn't read this entire thread but I bought an LT15 start last year for the same exact reason, lots of projects, lots of trees, and didn't want all the ash to go up the chimney.  I also bought an extra track section so I can saw up to 17'-something.  I've been very happy with it and you are welcome to come take a look one weekend and even saw a few logs yourself if you want ;).  PM me if you have any specific questions or want to arrange for a visit.

I only saw for myself as a hobby and I feel like this mill is more than enough for me in that use.  If I was running a business or trying to make money at it, a hydraulic would be a no-brainer but the majority of my time is spent cleaning up after felled trees, processing firewood out of the tops, building stuff out of the lumber, etc. - NOT milling.  I basically do between one and a few trees at a time, from start to finish, and the bottle neck is not the mill but all the other upstream parts of the process.  If you have loggers delivering wood to your mill, its a different story but a faster mill is sort of a waste if you can't keep it fed.  I certainly can't by myself.
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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2019, 12:59:31 PM »
nybhh, your situation reminds me of mine.  I too think hydraulics and other fancy add-ons are likely out of the question for me.  I agree that it is the lifting, moving, stacking, drying, planing, etc. etc....and no the cutting per se, that will be taking up most of my time.  Quick question;

Does the LT-15 allow you to simply push unit, rather than using crank?  I watch (and watch, lol) youtube stuff where WM guys are cranking that handle, their necks bent at a funny angle, heads down, peering into blade area, all the while trying to crank that goofy handle.  Then I saw some Norwood manual mills where the push bar is mounted on the opposite side (from where WM does their crank) and it just looks much more natural to walk and push from that side, and it appears one can actually watch the progress of the cut much more easily.  What am I missing?  I generally like the WM stuff, but for price and actual usability (for my limited needs), I sense that I could easily get along with a Norwood unit.

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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2019, 10:58:11 PM »
The drive on a LT15 is done with a rope connected to the crank. Untie the rope and it pushes nicely. 
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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2019, 08:17:32 AM »
Thanks Darrel.  

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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2019, 04:51:28 PM »
The LT-15 Start doesn't have the crank - push only.  I was never a fan of the crank either and one of the reasons why I felt comfortable "downgrading".  Most of what I mill is pine so a few horses is less of a problem as well although I haven't had any problems with the small quantities of ash and maple I've milled.

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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2019, 08:03:37 PM »
I've only been sawing since last May and it is for my projects, using winter blow overs that have been going to waste mostly White Pine, Spruce, Fir and cedar. I have a Timbery M100 manual mill with 1 bed extension can cut 16 ft 8ins X 26 ins, up graded to 9 hp motor. I cut enough wood to build a 11' 8" X 15'8" shed cut all 2X8, 2X6, 2X4, and sheeting from 1X4,6,8 I had to haul the logs 8 miles to where I set up the mill the shed at this time is covered with tyvac and the roof is shingled. This summer I plan on using Cedar for reverse board and batten. The manual mill for me was not hard to push as long as I had a sharp blade, i need the exercise since I retired, I was not walking in the sawdust like some mills. I haul the slabes to the road and put a sign free firewood the slabes are always gone in a day. The complete mill delivered was under $4K that included tax. It took me over a year to make up my mind going to wood working shows and lumbering product shows.

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Re: Looking to look at some sawmills
« Reply #50 on: January 30, 2019, 06:15:56 PM »
Went ahead today, called up Woodmizer Shade Gap and ordered an LT-15 before the sale ends.

Looking forward to heading out and picking it up!

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« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2019, 06:10:54 PM »
Good call!
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« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2019, 07:36:05 PM »
Good deal! A LT15 is a good investment. 
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« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2019, 11:25:20 PM »
I will second that.
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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2019, 09:30:09 PM »
Just got back from my trip to pick up my new mill!  Very excited about the mill, I'd have some photos, but I got back a lot later than expected...

About 70 miles from home my truck decided it no longer wanted to have any transmission fluid inside of it and ejected it all over I-78  :'(

I made the last 70 miles of the trip with my truck on a rollback, and the mill towed behind on my trailer.  Super glad I had my AAA card with me.

I'm sure glad to be home...

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« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2019, 09:15:03 AM »
Sorry 'bout your truck, glad you're safe and you got your mill.  Good luck getting them both running!
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« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2019, 07:19:42 AM »
Thanks Darrel.  Difinately could have been worse!

Got the mill unloaded and mostly set up yesterday.  Not sure Ill be able to cut anything until we get some colder temps on Saturday.  Its a soggy mess here right now.

I wanted to give a big old thanks to everyone who posted and helped me with this decision.  Especially all of you who offered a mill demo.  I didnt make it out to see most of you,
But I still appreciated the offer a lot!


 

 


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