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COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« on: January 06, 2019, 07:24:55 PM »
Hello I am new to the form. I have a small farm in Virginia. I have 100 acres of timber. I have helped on a old Frick circle mill most my 45 years of life. I am looking at a couple local sawmills to cut mostly for my personal use maybe sale some down the road. I have a friend willing to sale me his well maintained Cooks AC36 deisel with cat sharper. Has 700 hours, 04 model.  For about the same price that I can purchase almost  new woodmizer Lt35 with 40 hours. Any advice would be greatly appreciate.  I have some big mature timber I'd like to use for fencing, Sheds, Barn ....  Thanks Hayseed 

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2019, 07:40:59 PM »
Sorry left out some information. Woodmizer lt35 has hydraulics and Mud Saw.

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2019, 07:46:45 PM »
What kind of engine does the WM have?

If it's diesel then it's a tossup, otherwise take the cooks.

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2019, 08:09:19 PM »
   I hear very good things about the Cooks mills but I have not personally seen them in operation. I see good things about the WoodMizer LT35 hydraulic every time I fire mine up and have only good things to say about the WM team including the fact they offer a service loop every other year to help keep it in near new running condition.

   I'd suggest you observe both in operation and compare the features offered on both. Good luck. I really doubt you go wrong with either.
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2019, 08:20:46 PM »
Lt35 has Kohler 25 gas.

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2019, 08:23:37 PM »
The AC36 is larger and has more capacity.  
Based on the age of the Cooks I would guess its not an emission regulated diesel which
many find a plus.
IMHO go with the Cooks, larger mill, support and supplies are on par with WM.

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2019, 08:35:36 PM »
I am leaning towards the Cooks. I've seen it cut very heavy built machine. I like the drag back. I work by myself a lot. I haven't watched the woodmizer cut yet but it is bright orange and they have a good reputation. 

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2019, 08:43:52 PM »
Go with the Cooks for the diesel.

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2019, 08:52:12 PM »
Based on my 2002 model MP32, Cooks does make rugged machines. Still going strong.
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2019, 09:43:26 PM »
Where about in Virginia are you?  One question you should compare is set up.  If you plan to move the mill much then the 35 will be more forgiving as far as where you set it up.  Both are good machines, the cooks has more hydraulic hoses and such so maintenance could be more costly depending on condition, etc.  
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2019, 09:53:41 PM »
I like the clamp system on my woodmizer. I use it to flip cants. Lift logs. It's serves more purposes than just a clamp. 

I do wish I had a chain turner though.
I like that all my controls and hydraulic levers are in close proximity compared to the cooks.

Like others said go run both then you will have a feel for which one you feel comfortable with.
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2019, 10:09:13 PM »
I am just west of Roanoke.  Thanks everyone for the opinions. I am still not %100 either way.

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2019, 10:21:04 PM »
Hayseed,

   If you want to watch and run an LT35HD I am about 104 miles from Roanoke and you are welcome to to come watch and try mine out. Bring your rubber boots as it's real muddy here right now.
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2019, 10:30:59 PM »
Hayseed,

   If you want to watch and run an LT35HD I am about 104 miles from Roanoke and you are welcome to to come watch and try mine out. Bring your rubber boots as it's real muddy here right now.
Thanks for the offer. I know all about the mud :(

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2019, 07:38:47 AM »
The Cooks sawmills are definitely heavy duty, well made machines!

The only drawback I have against the Cooks line of sawmills is that they are so tall!

I just wouldn't want that much mill, higher than my head!

Don't know how top-heavy they are, but in general the Wood-Mizers center of gravity is quite a bit lower!

I'm a mobile sawyer and get into some tippy trails, etc. with my mill, places where the Cooks would more likely tip!

I just like the Wood-Mizer, but then I'm biased because I own one! 
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2019, 09:03:06 AM »
I am new to milling, but on value issue, the Cooks hands down. If you are doing a lot of mobil sawing, the WM may have the edge.
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2019, 09:57:28 AM »
The following is the link to a post I did for someone else in the same situation you find your self in at the moment.

The cooks mill is a good mill. However there are more than few things that make the woodmizer the much better choice of the 2 you have mentioned here. 

http://forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=98681.msg1524363#msg1524363
If you ain't livin on the edge you are takin up way to much room. Of course at my age if I get too close to that edge any more theres a good chance I may fall off.
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2019, 10:50:34 AM »
Thanks Y'all for the all the advice. I am still undecided. I think I'd be getting more for my money with Cook and it would be stationary. The woodmizer holds it's resale value. They both have great costumer service. 

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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2019, 10:56:30 AM »
WMz has 10x better customer service hands down no comparison. 
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Re: COOKS AC36 use or New woodmizer lt35
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2019, 11:44:47 AM »
The Cooks mill is a well built mill BUT the "heavy" has a lot more to do with the quality of steel and other products used in the building of their mill. They use good steel but mostly mild steel rather then the higher grades that Woodmizer uses.

"Heavy built" is rarely a good thing when it comes to machinery of any kind.

Quality built is 10X and more the better way to go.

Woodmizer is head and shoulders above any other band mill I have ever compared.

Wood mizer has no rival in the service and support category for sawmills. Not even a close second!    

As far as getting "more for your money", resale value is the ONLY true measure that enters the field on that count! Woodmizer is head and shoulders above ALL others.

How far away is your closest dealer?  
If you ain't livin on the edge you are takin up way to much room. Of course at my age if I get too close to that edge any more theres a good chance I may fall off.
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