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Northwest Ohio Tree ID *Spring Update
« on: January 14, 2019, 08:23:32 AM »
This tree is in Dad's woods, up at the front by the road. It's about 24" DBH and very straight with little taper.

Here's a close up of the bark



 

Here's a bit further away.



 

And here's one of the branch structure. The middle/right side of the picture is the tree in question.



 

I told dad, this summer when the leaves come on we're going around and IDing trees in his woods since we always cut down in the winter and are always questioning what we're cutting.  Thanks in advance!

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2019, 11:19:57 AM »
Could be white oak .

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2019, 11:32:10 AM »
The bark kinda reminds me of yellow poplar .
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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2019, 12:05:56 PM »
It's definitely not white oak, all the white oak in that woods are swamp oak and 3-5' in diameter and the bark & branch structure is distinctively different.

Dad and I have our fingers crossed that it is poplar of some sort, I thought the bark looked similar to tulip poplar but I wasn't completely sure.

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2019, 12:07:30 PM »
i vote for poplar as well.

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2019, 12:23:23 PM »
Looks like northern red oak bark to me. Here is one out of m yard roughly the same size.



 

 
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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2019, 12:46:16 PM »
 :D With so many "local" terms for an oak and possibly several hundred miles from one picture to another it's about as simple as trouble shooting a chainsaw over the internet .What in the world is a swamp oak anyway ? BTW Jeffs' red oak and my red oak don't have the same bark . 

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2019, 12:52:46 PM »
Just to add if it's northwest Ohio the whole area at one time was swamp .So with that any oak might be considered as "swamp" oak .Those eastern giants that grew in the great black swamp were some of the largest oaks ever grown on this planet  .

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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 12:55:48 PM »
:D With so many "local" terms for an oak and possibly several hundred miles from one picture to another it's about as simple as trouble shooting a chainsaw over the internet .What in the world is a swamp oak anyway ? BTW Jeffs' red oak and my red oak don't have the same bark .
Here's a link from ODNR website on Swamp Oak.
http://forestry.ohiodnr.gov/swampwhiteoak

For what it's worth, I have never seen a red oak in Dad's woods, only white oak (swamp white oak). Also, the comparable sized red oak in my woods doesn't have the deep ridges that this tree has and it has a different branch structure. I'm trying to get better at identifying trees but sometimes it all comes through as gobbledygook :D :P

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 12:57:47 PM »
I'll have to get a picture of the biggun in Dad's woods, too close to the road to ever take down but I would guess it's somewhere between 5-6' DBH and 60' to the first branch, a true marvel to me.

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2019, 01:12:38 PM »
There are many sub species under the label of Red Oak. Mine is a northern red oak.
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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 01:43:40 PM »
 

 These are white oaks .Wow I kept my cool for once and got-er-done   8)

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 08:17:10 PM »
Rock oak. aka chestnut oak

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2019, 08:29:33 PM »
From the close up bark pic sure does look like chestnut oak, a white oak.  Quercus montana.

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2019, 09:43:04 PM »
Hmm now I am more confused. What throws me off is the "breaks" in the bark that run horizontal, breaking up the vertical bark "runs". Also, what throws me that I haven't really seen before is the distinctive grey/white in the valleys of the bark. Maybe we'll just have to cut it down for scientific research. :)

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2019, 07:54:50 AM »
Or you could wait and get a leaf :).
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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2019, 08:29:11 AM »
I'd probably wait for the leaf myself rather than trip a tree for sport .Think about it .In Ohio hard woods it would take over 100 years to get a 24"  diameter tree .Those 36-40 inch white oaks I pictured likely 200 years .

A few years ago I had to take down a wind damaged red oak that was a tad over 4 feet and 118 feet tall shot with a laser to verify .I counted 278 rings dating back before the revolutionary war .

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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2019, 07:39:52 PM »
The tulip/yellow poplar will get that silver in the valley of the bark, you may be able to find some of the flower/seed clusters still on the tree or on the ground around it.
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2019, 07:43:47 PM »
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Re: Northwest Ohio Tree ID
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2019, 07:09:47 AM »
My first reaction was black walnut based on the first picture.  Definitely not red, white, or chestnut oak and that bark I'd awfully dark to be tuliptree.  Could be black gum perhaps as its bark has the ability to look a little like everything else.  On what kind of site/soils is the tree growing?  To confirm walnut, take a pocket knife and shave the outer bark.  The inner bark should be a chocolate brown color.
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