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Re: mobile mechanic rates
« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2019, 12:26:07 PM »
Ours were just hose we used on the flat beds built into service boxes. 

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« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2019, 02:49:32 PM »
NEVER NEVER use radiator hose for anything gasoline. Gas hose is different. Doing so will cause untold grief later on.
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« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2019, 03:12:40 PM »
The difference between a 351 w and a 351 m or 400 is night and day, no way to mistake one for the other. The 351 is a small block, just has a higher deck than a 302, which makes the intake an 1 1/2 wider, and has the small valve  covers, the m and 400 are massive compared to them.

The space under the hood is the same, drops right in and has since 65 if you have the right motor mount stands, but will require the 4 wheel drive oilpan and dipstick.

300 i6, 302, 341w, 351 c, which looks more like a m size wise all have the same bell bolt pattern.
The 351 m, 400, 429 and 460 has the same bolt pattern and autos will interchange, except the torque converter from a 460 tranny will not fit in the crank of a 429. Using a standard the bellhousing bolt patterns are the same as a 460, but the depth is different and the will not interchange between a 460 and the 351m or 400.

With the way my service trucks were always loaded, 355 gears and 36 in tires would have been very doggy, even with 235 85 16's the 355's were pretty doggy, I preffered 410's, unless I was running long distances on the highway.
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« Reply #83 on: February 10, 2019, 04:44:22 PM »
Personally I Iíd use as much metal pipe as you can, just attach it to the tank and filler with your exsisting hose. Safer if a rock or stick flips up on the back roads.

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« Reply #84 on: February 10, 2019, 06:34:58 PM »
Yup your correct. For some reason I thought you said itís an 81. Had to look back and see you said itís an 83. 83 will definitely be the 351w. Sadly. 351/400m are still a small block. They were based off the 351c. Which was based off of what ford called Y blocks. Something about the crank center line and angles. The exact explanation escapes my frozen brain at the moment. 

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« Reply #85 on: February 10, 2019, 07:47:29 PM »
My Grandpa bought a brand new 1977 F250 Camper Special 2wd with a 351M and an auto tranny.  It didn't last 40,000 miles before the rods started to rattle.  He pulled it and went through it.  His rebuild didn't hold.  He was told later that Ford had a run of cranks that the machining was slightly off and he had one of them.  He pulled the V8 and auto tranny and transplanted a 300 6 with a 4 speed transmission and made a real truck out of it. ;D :) ;D 
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« Reply #86 on: February 10, 2019, 09:16:47 PM »
The good ol' 300- love it or hate it, if you had one you might just as well get used to it because it was probably going to outlive you!😂
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« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2019, 12:17:38 AM »
351 c was nothing like a y block,  y blocks came after flatheads and before the FE series, and were the 273,292 and 312 engines with 2 valve cover bolts in the center of the valve covers.

The cleveland engines looked more like the 351 m, except had the small block bellhousing pattern. Ford never called any of them a big block, but was closer in size to a 460 than a 302. I do not remember which it was, but either the c or m series had a wet intake, while the other one was dry too.
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« Reply #88 on: February 11, 2019, 12:43:00 AM »
Yes starmac you are correct. My memory doesnít always serve me well. Mís were a dry intake. They were prone to running a little extra warmer because of it. 351/400 replaced the ford ft (ford truck) engines. 360/390. 77 was the 1st year they put them in pick up trucks I believe. But I could be wrong. I think ford still made the 360/390 for industrial use for a little while after though. 1st year or maybe 2 Mís were Prone to lifter valley cracking from the extra abuse of being in trucks I guess. Ford added extra webbing in the casting to resolve this 
When I was younger for fun we would junk out ford trucks with the 300 6 in them. For fun we would put a brick on the gas pedal and drink beer n wait to see when it would blow apart. We used to get sick of waiting. 

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« Reply #89 on: February 11, 2019, 02:04:19 AM »
Cub, I've heard several stories from guys that finally got bored and gave up trying to kill a 300!😂
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« Reply #90 on: February 11, 2019, 06:05:19 AM »
Re, with regards to some of the off topic comments. My father could listen to you guys all day and chuckle along with the words "What a Polus". Man I could just hear him now. My father only had grade 10, but he knew who Polus was. Never mind me, a fella needs to laugh sometimes about nothing. :D
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« Reply #91 on: February 11, 2019, 07:39:39 AM »
I have used milk pipeline tubing because it is stainless. Usually the filler neck is largely in the wheel well and prone to get rusted. NAPA has the fuel resistant hose you need. Hose clamps are stainless anyway.
Used to be a lot of small barns around here with at least part of the pipeline still there and farmers we resigned to the fact there would never be cows on their farm again. High junk prices and thieves have taken a lot of it away, though.
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« Reply #92 on: February 11, 2019, 08:42:59 AM »
The 300 6 I mentioned lasted many years and pulled/hauled many loads.  It outlived the truck body.  After it sat a couple days when it fired up the rods would rattle.  You could hear them quit as soon as it picked up oil. 
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« Reply #93 on: February 11, 2019, 09:31:18 AM »
Mike, Gates makes a green stripe hose made for fuel tube. We used it in racing, it's not super flexible but works great and doesn't break down
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« Reply #94 on: February 11, 2019, 09:54:47 AM »
Thanks for the info boys. 
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« Reply #95 on: February 11, 2019, 01:46:57 PM »
Cub I am not 100 % sure what if any were called the ft series, perhaps the 331, 361 and the 391, which were the industrial engines base on the fe series, basically the same but with larger water pumps and at least larger bolts for all accessories , many if not all were governed too. used in medium trucks and some equipment also.

The FE serious consisted of the 352,360 390,406,410(merc) 427, and 428, all were used in cars except the 360, the 406 up was never a factory option in a pickup.
When it came time to sell a pickup of this era, all 360's magically turned into 390's, when most were in fact 360's and the 390 was never an option in a 4x4 at all for some reason.
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« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2019, 03:20:35 PM »
Boy its enough confusion to make a guy stick with chevy. 
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« Reply #97 on: February 11, 2019, 05:36:29 PM »
FE" derives from 'Ford-Edsel. Versions of the FE line designed for use in medium and heavy trucks and school buses from 1964 through 1978 were known as "FT," for 'Ford-Truck, and differed primarily by having steel (instead of nodular iron) crankshafts, larger crank snouts, smaller ports and valves, different distributor shafts, different water pumps and a greater use of iron for its parts.

I believe these would be the 360/390 ford used in trucks buses irrigation pumps and many other ďindustrialĒ places. The same exact engine used in cars but a few differences. 
Ford and all their specifics and options. Ugh. 
You are correct about the 360ís magically turning into 390ís. Saw lots of used 4x4 trucks in 1/2 ton to 1 ton that amazingly had the stock engine but were sold as having the much wanted 390. Mustíve figured they could get more money or would sell faster with the ď390Ē in them.  :D  Either way both excellent engines in all their uses. 
My girlfriend has a 76 1/2 ton 4x4 with the 360. Excellent torque monster. Mild cam 4 barrel aluminum intake really wakes em up. 

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« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2019, 07:07:07 PM »
I believe my favourite truck I've owned was my 68 3/4 ton 4x4 with the 360 and 4 speed. One of those wished I'd never sold it moments.

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« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2019, 07:11:17 PM »
the f 650 750 had the 361 391 they did have a bigger crank shaft. the last of the big gas was 370  429 lima. or something like that. i had a 534 only for the few months to find out that was not the answer. yanked that out an put a 671 in. i bought a new f100 in 75 with a 360. it was a dog and at 52000 it broke a rod that poked thru the block and knocked the starter off. it was still running i drove it home. the state has sued ford over the problems with the 360. so the warranty was extended to i think 50k. the dealer said mine had to many miles


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