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Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« on: January 26, 2019, 05:46:28 AM »
Just another day at the office.


What techniques you guys use for similar situation?
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2019, 09:49:52 AM »
LoL!  That tree was persistent! That's basically what I've done in my limited experience, but they've never hung on so tightly. If I were working far from the truck, I'd probably take some rope, and consider pulling it back towards the stump in situations like that. Depends on the exact setup/tree. Always good to have rope anyway.

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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2019, 10:05:36 AM »
Stubborn old cuss!

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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2019, 11:13:27 AM »
Rope & a come-along works well.  About the same way I would go about it outherwise.   Its happened to me lots of time in dense timber. When it does, its pretty much going to be firewood splitwood_smiley  If you could get a tractor backed up to it, you could put a log chain around the but cut and pull it down depending upon your tree and tractor size. 

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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2019, 04:25:49 AM »
haha, did annoy me a little bit.

There's no way i could get my tractor into the forest right now because of the snow, roughly 50cm of snow.

Usually i cut the hinge and use felling lever to pull and they do come down fairly easly most of the time.
But it was going to be firewood anyway, so i decided to use this technique. Which worked out fine tbh.

The felling lever is such a useful tool, i really do think that every forest owner should own one.
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2019, 06:31:41 AM »
        I never even seen one of those before much less use one.  Could be a real handy tool.

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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2019, 07:42:08 AM »
The felling lever is such a useful tool, i really do think that every forest owner should own one.
I have seen these used many times in videos, mostly in Europe. Mostly they seem handy on smaller tall straight trees that need encouragement. I would like to try one but I can't see buying one just to try it. My sense is that it becomes another 'thing' to carry, and with the saw and an ax to drive wedges, this would be on the too many. Our bigger hardwoods really require wedging any way when some encouragement is required.
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2019, 07:59:26 AM »
The felling lever is such a useful tool, i really do think that every forest owner should own one.
I have seen these used many times in videos, mostly in Europe. Mostly they seem handy on smaller tall straight trees that need encouragement. I would like to try one but I can't see buying one just to try it. My sense is that it becomes another 'thing' to carry, and with the saw and an ax to drive wedges, this would be on the too many. Our bigger hardwoods really require wedging any way when some encouragement is required.
I do agree with the 'thing to carry' part. Whenever i leave the forrest, i'll make a plan for the next day, if there's no heavy leaners, i'll bring my felling lever with me the next day.  If there's leaners, i'll take my wedges and an axe.

But yeah it's designed for medium sized  trees, however we have taken down some really big trees with it, you do need some muscle if you're felling against the lean.

But it is absolutely amazing tool if you get your trees hung up.

Here's a nice video to get the idea of how useful it can be.











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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2019, 08:19:11 AM »
Looks like a felling lever & cant hook all in one.  Yes, one more thing to carry and to not lose.  Another item to paint flor. orange. :D

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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2019, 09:50:31 AM »
I noticed that lever in your other videos. Looks handy, and there's been a couple times I could have used something like that. Is it stout enough for me to give it everything I've got without bending/breaking?

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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2019, 10:27:41 AM »
I noticed that lever in your other videos. Looks handy, and there's been a couple times I could have used something like that. Is it stout enough for me to give it everything I've got without bending/breaking?
I'm a big ass dude and i have used all my strenght on it. If i can't break/bend it, i doubt anyone else can.
The one that i have is from Fiskars. Before i took over the forest work, the previous guy took every single tree down with that lever, he had no wedges.
we've had it for 10 years or so.
this is the one i have. https://www.sahanpuru.com/fiskars-felling-lever.html
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2019, 10:48:56 AM »
I do agree with the 'thing to carry' part. Whenever i leave the forrest, i'll make a plan for the next day, if there's no heavy leaners, i'll bring my felling lever with me the next day.  If there's leaners, i'll take my wedges and an axe. But yeah it's designed for medium sized  trees, however we have taken down some really big trees with it, you do need some muscle if you're felling against the lean. But it is absolutely amazing tool if you get your trees hung up.


100% agree with this comment, i use the small one almost on a daily base. a very useful tool. I did brake the hook off, but i used it for things it wasn't made for. I imagine the big one is indestructible. I have the Stihl one
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2019, 01:30:13 PM »
       I never even seen one of those before much less use one.  Could be a real handy tool.
A felling lever tends to be of more use in softwoods, which grow against gravity, so they are more likely to be close to balanced - not a whole lot of back lean to overcome. In hardwoods (which grow toward the light, rather than straight up against gravity), there is more likelihood of significant lean. The lever will still work on some of them, but you will find a higher instance of lean or imbalance in the crown too heavy to overcome with just the lever.
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2019, 02:10:54 PM »
Just another day at the office.


What techniques you guys use for similar situation?
If I couldn't get my tractor up to it, or the cable from my logging winch, I'd first see if I could roll it out: cut off most of the hinge except a tab on one edge or the other. Sometimes that's enough to just let it roll. If it doesn't roll on its own, I'd try twisting the tree with a peavey or a "pole in a hole" (bore a hole in the trunk down low, stick a pole in to use as a lever for twisting).

If the tree did not look as though it would roll out, I'd probably end up doing what you did: chunking it up till it dropped.

If I needed it in one piece, I'd try a technique sometimes called "tree on a rail". I won't try to describe it beyond saying that it allows a properly prepared butt of the log to slide backwards along a pole, often freeing the top from what is hanging it up. If I can find a good description elsewhere, I'll put it up here.
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2019, 02:59:25 PM »
A good tip is to make the felling notch at lower angle, so the hinge can break before it hits the tree/branches.
Which i did on the video but should of made it at even lower angle.


John, the way you described is how i usually do it.

I bore into the hinge from the middle, remove as much as hinge as possible but leave the sides intact.
And then i start slowly removing the hinge from one side, the side depends which side you want the tree to roll.
And if it doesnt free itself up, i pull it with felling lever, if it still doesn't come down, i'll cut trough the other side of the hinge.

But for the sake of video i did the way i did it, not to mention not everyone have felling lever.

I just didin't expect it to be that stubborn  smiley_furious3

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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2019, 03:10:17 PM »
Hang ups are dangerous....for me. If it happens due to my bad planning, I tend to quit and leave it for awhile.
This woodlot has some crowded growth for clear felling. If it needs to be "chunked" with short cuts, I'll do it slow and easy.
But still it is dangerous with softwoods.
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2019, 02:54:45 AM »
Hang ups are dangerous....for me. If it happens due to my bad planning, I tend to quit and leave it for awhile.
This woodlot has some crowded growth for clear felling. If it needs to be "chunked" with short cuts, I'll do it slow and easy.
But still it is dangerous with softwoods.
On my first years, i was really scared of hang up trees. But the more i had to deal with them, the more confident i became.
But it is the most dangerous part of felling.
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 01:34:18 PM »
I hung 2 up in thr past week. This one wasnt a big deal. Hooked the 8n on it and it came on down

 This one i wasnt so lucky on. It wedged in the crotch and there wasnt any way to get it out. 

 As you can see some of it is still in the tree and will be for awhile.

 
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Re: Tree hung up on other trees - Video
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 09:13:41 PM »
I'd throw a chain around the bottom and hook it to the truck.

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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2019, 09:35:24 PM »
Truck wouldnt of pulled mine out
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