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What do you use for material handling ?
« on: January 29, 2019, 10:13:16 AM »
I started out using a 25 hp chinese "bison" brand tractor. Without any fel. Just a boom pole and home made forks on the back 3 point. About 2 years ago I bought a Ford 3400 that runs good and has fel. Been a stout workhorse allowing me to load unload and stack palletized lumber and logs.
The only drawback is lifting capacity around 3000 breakout force 2200 # to full height.
Well just bought a mastercraft rough terrain forklift with 6000# capacity side shift 12' mast . Really hoping that this will make life easier.
   So how many of you guys use a forklift versus tractor front end loader or skid steer?
I would have liked to have found a skid steer but the price was right on the master craft.
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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2019, 10:19:45 AM »
There's a 2007 Mastercraft Rough Terrain unit for sale on ebay right now.  Looks like a nice unit albeit rear tires look bald.  Asking $$14,900.00.  Would love to have, but not at this time.

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2019, 10:38:38 AM »
I started with a winch and truck, then got a backhoe, which was way too big, then got a small skid steer, which was too small, then bought a larger tracked skid steer.  With out terrain the tracked skid steer has been amazing.  Its like a tanks and goes anywhere.  Also capable of lifting over 5000#, so it is strong and nimble.  Its been the perfect machine for us.  We use a grapple and forks for implements.  Its been a great combination!  If you want to see our different machines in action you can find videos of them on our YouTube channel.  It might give you some insight on how well each one works.

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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2019, 10:43:50 AM »
We have two A300 Bobcats. They are basically a large skid steer but the wheels behave like an articulating loader...or at the push of a button, you can put it in skid steer mode if you get into a tight spot. They dont tear up the ground(in all wheel steer mode)(tires last forever) and with an experienced operator, can load a 5000 pound lift of lumber, load the log deck easily, remove slabs, and using another completed lift as a backstop build lifts out of larger heavier beams that would give me a hernia....or hemmeroids atleast... they are  not as easy to get in and out of as other types of machinery, and spend alot of time on two wheels when moving the heavy stuff. 

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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2019, 11:15:44 AM »
I only play with a homemade chainsaw track mill for small volumes of project wood.  Skid steer with forks for cut stuff and loading individual logs.  4wd nasco forklift for managing bigger stuff. 





Theyre both happy to play 52 card pickup and would benefit from a grapple but oh well.  I paid $4000 delivered for the forklift and it was advertised for months so theyre out there with pretty low demand.  Not many other $4000 tools are gonna set 15k on your roof. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2019, 02:33:29 PM »
Lull with a 6,000 lb lift and 44' reach.  Have found it to be a LOT more useful than I ever imagined.  
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2019, 03:02:44 PM »
My dad had an old lull and the dexterity was much better than my machine. Plus it could crab steer into much tighter stuff than articulated loaders.  Brute force wise the steer axles drastically reduced its capacity but for as big as it was it had very fine stay in place motor skills so to speak.  Couldnt have done without the zoom boom at the junkyard.  

For max lift and pretty good dexterity an articulated bucket loader with grapple forks is hard to beat. Easy on the ground and dont drop loads too often.  A forklift just cant curl down enough to slide everything off.  Thats when you end up ramming into stuff by accident, pulling your hair out at the one stupid log that wont roll.  Then it does, right into the fence or shed or plum off the other side of the trailer.  
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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2019, 03:08:55 PM »
I have a New Holland L185 wheeled skidsteer.  Lift capacity is 2500 lbs., but I have a weight kit on it, and have successfully unloaded a machine with a known weight of 3500 lbs. with it.  I use it for everything, including moving logs to the sawmill and sawn lumber to my drying shed, unloading woodworking machinery in my shop, and loading trucks.  I also plow my long driveway with it.  I'd be sunk without it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2019, 05:00:51 PM »
iv got a 2018 kubota 73 horse with 3000# loader arms, but can go to 3500 #, but i loose about 6-8" of lift. it does descent for the smaller stuff, up to 3000 # of course, but wont do much for my bigger logs. some are upwards of 6000 #, so dragging them will be the only way to move them whole. luckily, slabs will be easier to manage. 
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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2019, 06:10:27 PM »
Farmall  tractor forklift conversion.  Rough terrain, and tight turn radius, 2500 LB capacity.




 
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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2019, 06:31:11 PM »
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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2019, 06:31:47 PM »
Started with a IH 350 U / harlow fork lift, would go 20' and lift 3500 lbs. Never get stuck with chains. Had power steering problems and kept breaking starters. Next a 10,000 clark dual wheel  air tire fork lift, gasoline perkins, burns a lot of oil but a powerful machine. Started picking up triple the lbs. that the ih did, broke all the pallets, learned how to make them. Last year got a 10,000 Yale perkins diesel, an '06, no electronics. For logs it's the old f1800 load star rear mount frm Prentiss.

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2019, 07:25:02 PM »
6035 traverse. Made by Pettibone.
Would be lost without it.



 

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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2019, 07:55:23 PM »
 8n ford with my homemade grapple

 
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2019, 08:36:20 PM »
Hyster z90c zoom boom. Works great. Used a 428 backhoe before that. Much prefer the forklift. I can reach over the mill and scoop the slab pile.
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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2019, 08:54:14 PM »
 

 
 use the John Deere tractor loader  less and less after getting the Ingersoll Rand far reach lift still finding uses around log yard with it.

 loading and unloading trailers, flatbeds and Box trucks makes it so handy.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2019, 09:13:05 PM »
This is my case 480d. First installed a quick attachment system for forks and soon a grapple bucket. Then last summer I adapted the John deere backhoe so with four bolts I can have the backhoe or the big Gannon box blade the tractor came with.  It's been a great tractor,  not to big but big enough for under $6000.

 

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« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2019, 12:09:28 AM »
I'm using a 1972 windham 8k forklift. I also have a 4000 ford industrial tractor with forks that is use to snake and load logs.
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« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 02:57:00 AM »
 

 


I do have a 40 gal drum of Old Cat Yellow, I just dont have time to use it.

Forklifts are good on packs of lumber, and in a tight space (with good ground under them) there is no substitute for one. My old Hyster is good for 4 ton.

Outside I prefer wheel loaders... that little chinese machine with the quick hitch front is a great utility machine... lift 2 ton, pallet forks, log forks, chip bucket, 4WD and an air cab: what more do you want? In a sawmill setting for what you pay for them new with a warranty I'd never look at a secondhand cat again. Different thing if I was running a quarry or desilting dams 14 hours a day but for this kinda work they're very good value for money.

The old LD9 will handle a 6 ton log like its not even there. Some places there is no substitute for brute force, and a log yard in a sawmill is one of them.





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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2019, 09:12:20 AM »
Skid steer and telehandler here. If I had to choose one machine to have around it would be the skid steer. Handy for so many jobs, even gets a spot in the heated shop on these  cold days. If it wasnt for the telehandler I would be wishing for a bigger skid though. Grapple is so handy. Sorry no pics cant seem to remember how to insert.

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« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2019, 10:55:53 AM »
We transport our logs and lumber with a John Deere 4320 compact tractor with pallet forks works pretty good when I had my first mill we used New Holland skid steer worked good also but tore up the ground pretty bad. Randy

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« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2019, 11:29:06 AM »
580 case with a 4 way front bucket for the big stuff, but

 this guy does an impressive amount of work

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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2019, 12:56:05 PM »
580 case with a 4 way front bucket for the big stuff, but
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 this guy does an impressive amount of work
I often wondered how those would work everytime I drool over one. would be great for a portable job in someones backyard with very tight quarters. if the mill was built good enough you could put it right on the mill for transport.

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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2019, 03:21:41 PM »
I have a Kubota L48. My preference is a Lull type telehandler.

  
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2019, 03:23:32 PM »
I was actually quite surprised on what it can lift,  if it can`t lift it (16  ft, 28" oak) I get the forks under it, curl back a hair and the log is off the ground enough to push it..or roll it. very handy for the slabs, moving pallets, etc. Its so small and manueverable I find myself avoiding using the big machine., This one is 3k lbs, I wouldn`t put in on my mill but lotsa guys get them in the back of their trucks.

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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2019, 04:27:59 PM »
I would be alot happier putting it on my mill than in the back of my truck. even if I had a 1 ton. The mill was built for 6000+ pounds. of course the single 7000 pound axle is the limiting factor anyhow :)

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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2019, 12:22:18 AM »
Cat 910 articulated loader with forks.

Given a choice, I'd got with a CAT IT-12 integrated tool carrier. It's the same machine as the 910 but has quick-change attachments and parallel loader geometry.
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2019, 06:28:08 AM »
The cat works for me.


 


 

 

 
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2019, 09:24:50 PM »
A telehandler is about the most versatile machine around the mill.  :)
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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2019, 09:07:24 PM »
   I think the Admins should move this to the Restricted thread so us underprivileged po' folks don't have to read, look and cry.

   I have a JD 750 with a bush hog brand 1648 (I think that is right model number) FEL with a bucket and 20" forks that bolt on to the bucket. It is way undersized for any big log or load of lumber. When somebody gives me a winning lottery ticket I am going to upgrade. (How many times I have I seen the old adage "How do you make a million dollars with a sawmill? Answer: Start with 2 million.)


 
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« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2019, 09:36:54 PM »
WV - that tractor sure holds a good whack of lumber.  I have a 66 HP row crop IH that would be about all full with that on the loader.  
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2019, 10:57:19 PM »


 
Moves the lumber.


 
Clears snow.


 
Picks up logs.from trailers with fenders
I'm happy with what I have, it meets all my needs.
Now, if I wanted to stack my lumber up to eight lifts high, I'd go with the Cat that Peter Drouin plays with!   :D
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« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2019, 12:01:03 AM »
Sure are a lot of nice high lift forklifts out there!  I just have this 1986 vintage 9038:


 
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« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2019, 12:49:46 AM »
@E-Tex you didn't have that tractor when i stopped by did you? what hp is it and do you like the backhoe attachment? been contemplating getting a hoe for my kubota. maybe this winter depending how well i do on fire season this yr, and how well our profit sharing bonus is, which depends on the bristow group buy out. 
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« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2019, 07:00:41 AM »
Andries, A grapple is most useful.


 

 


 

 

 
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« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2019, 08:14:50 AM »
For the few logs per day I do, I depend on a riding lawn tractor and self built log arch.  I use this rig to move logs, slabs and pallets of lumber.  Most of the big jobs are at a customer's place who furnishes a tractor and labor.  I have a two axle trailer with parbuckling winch to pick up logs.  It is all kinda primitive but I get by.  So far I have resisted a new FEL tractor and a new monthly payment.  

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Re: What do you use for material handling ?
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2019, 09:11:10 AM »
@E-Tex you didn't have that tractor when i stopped by did you? what hp is it and do you like the backhoe attachment? been contemplating getting a hoe for my kubota. maybe this winter depending how well i do on fire season this yr, and how well our profit sharing bonus is, which depends on the bristow group buy out.
No sir, I've just had it a few months.  65hp.....Heavy Tractor with great lift capacity.  Works perfect for me.
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« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2019, 10:47:40 AM »
Andries, A grapple is most useful. 
I agree completely. 
This canoe got in the way once too often . . . .  ;) 


 
Peter, you show photos of the Mr. Deere and Mr. Cat. 
Great looking equipment!
Do you use the grapple on the Cat very often?
Also, if memory serves, you do a lot of timber milling for the timber framing market. 
Doesn't the grapple punch dents into the timbers when using the grapple? 
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