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Offline Bruno of NH

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Black Locust
« on: February 03, 2019, 11:36:37 AM »
I stumbled on some black locust for the first time.
Wow what a great firewood!
I gave a friend of mine 1/2 of what I had for helping me out this fall with the firewood business. 
The tree company dropped it off.
I don't know where it came from.
I would like to find more for next year.
It's makes great heat and coals.
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2019, 12:54:59 PM »
You could probably sell it as fence posts for a lot more than it's worth as firewood. They last forever.
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2019, 01:05:22 PM »
You could probably sell it as fence posts for a lot more than it's worth as firewood. They last forever.
I have four huge locusts next to my drive that my boss wants for fence posts, but they aren't for sale at any price  :^D
It does make nice firewood. I've had some in the past that I scavenged from job sites. Burns hot and long  :^)

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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2019, 01:06:17 PM »
You could probably sell it as fence posts for a lot more than it's worth as firewood. They last forever.
Yep, $135/ton in 7' sections if they are sound.  Only issue burning it is the smell, not so pleasant but in a woodstove or boiler it is fine.
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2019, 09:44:02 PM »
Hottest burning firewood we have in the upper Mid-Atlantic area (and we have a fairly wide variety of species).  It will burn pretty well green but generally produces a heavy creosote chimney coating. Most experienced black locust burners dry for a minimum 2 years vs. the standard 1 year for other hardwoods.  My clay tile chimney has virtually no build-up from other hardwoods after 1 - 2 years continuous winter burning. Same tiles look like they have been coated with black glass after burning a season of black locust. Still like the black locust heat but I try to mix with other hardwoods.  We mill all of the big ones for exposure use lumber but yields are very low because of their “lobe” growth shape. All the scraps find the stove so nothing gets wasted. Friends fight over our locust slab wood when we have extra. 

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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2019, 09:55:36 PM »
Its pretty much what I have been burning the last couple of years as I cleared an area in my pasture that had a lot of black locust in it. The locust I am currently burning has been seasoned for two years and it is burning real nice in the Garn. I have a fair amount of hedge {Osage Orange} on the same farm so if I need post I make them out of hedge. 

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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2019, 10:15:34 PM »
I usually burn standing dead locust. It goes into the stove that night. If it has been laying on the ground it might get seasoned a little while. We've been cutting, splitting and delivering trailerloads like that without problems. I'm sure live locust would take a bit but there is so much dead around there isn't much need to burn a live one. I've never cleaned the chimney, it doesn't creosote but I burn dry and don't choke a stove at all.
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2019, 10:28:20 PM »
   It is a preferred firewood around here because of the high heat and low ash results but I almost cry when I see it advertised. I went over to see my next door neighbor yesterday and he was unloading a truckload of it. If it will make a fence post I save mine for that and if it will make a pole I cut it 15' long. My wood storage pole barn has locust uprights and I built a firewood shed with 4 decent locust uprights last year. I just square them on the mill for a flat nailing surface. I also have 2 shooting houses/deer blinds (one is 6'X8' and the other is 6'X6') built on locust poles. I sold nearly 600 posts and 20 poles for a pole barn 4-5 years ago. The lady who bought the poles could have gotten treated 6X6 cheaper but wanted locust. One guy hired a trucker who came over 250 miles to get them and take them back to the coastal area of Va.

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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2019, 07:35:48 AM »
Agreed, it gets graded into 3 uses here, the good straight solid wood goes to construction. If those open up to doty sections it is a raised bed timber, the rest is firewood. I'll firewood it down to about 2" branchwood for our stove.  Fenceposts would be another grade you can pull out of the mix.

This is a recent truckload of firewood grade. These were trees that had overtaken an old pasture. It is a short lived colonizer. These trees are mostly dead standing. I flipped them out with the loader last summer and we've been chewing up the pile this winter as well as dropping some of the larger ones I couldn't flip. We also have another couple of honey holes where they were pushed out while fencing and need to be removed from those neglected pastures. In my woods they have died out as the canopy has closed over them which is very common. The old timers say open grown locust is different from woods grown. Generally if they have conchs on them they are firewood the heart rot is already there. You can see that on the truck.





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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 09:01:58 AM »
Most of my fire wood is locust slab wood. The best firewood [ other than fruitwoods] is hickory cut live and split and stacked in the shed for 2 years. It can burn through the side of the stove.

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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2019, 11:01:43 PM »
   I love black locust. Green they smell like fresh picked raw peanuts. One bad feature is they are shallow rooted and they grow on steep slopes. In winters we often have several days of soaking rain that seriously softens the ground then we have a hard ice storm and the locusts are among the first to uproot. When one falls it will take down 2-3 below it which take down the ones below them in a domino effect. I have seen long strips where the whole mountainside got uprooted. Looked like where I used to hunt in S. Ala where a tornado I had come through and taken out a path.
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2019, 07:20:30 PM »
I know you guys are probably more careful than me and never get splinters, but I find that locust splinters tend to fester and get sore much worse than oaks or maples.
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2019, 11:24:59 AM »
I know you guys are probably more careful than me and never get splinters, but I find that locust splinters tend to fester and get sore much worse than oaks or maples.
I was just loading the Garn over the weekend with locust and didn't put my gloves on and got a splinter and now its festered up. It reminds you in a hurry to put your gloves on. Hedge is bad that way too. 

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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2019, 09:54:18 AM »
Helps push the splinter out.  :D

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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2019, 09:41:30 PM »
No argument here.  My favorite firewood.  Splits easily, lasts forever stacked.
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2019, 04:33:47 PM »
Well Folks
Black Locust is considered an invasive species in Ontario :o :o
Just blew me away
Attached is the bureaucrat's reasoning
 http://www.ontarioinvasiveplants.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Black_Locust_BMP.pdf
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Re: Black Locust
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2019, 07:17:53 PM »
I ended up with the black locusts from the tree company. 
I dont know where it came from.
I want more but it's hard to come by around my area.
It makes the best coals of any firewood I have ever burned.
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