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Re: Maple Syrup 2019
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2019, 08:01:13 AM »
celliot;  Just curious, how many MILES of mainline do you guys have!

Also, I forgot the size of your evaporators!

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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2019, 08:08:55 AM »
We use the braided cable for bigger pipes. 1.5, 2 and sometimes 3 get 1/4 cable, 3 and 4 get 3/8 cable. Its very heavy but you can get it so much tighter than high tensile wire, and no worry about it breaking. Pulls very hard though. A whole new set of challenges with it we had to figure out- 3/8 cable cant anchor to trees, so we use ledge and boulders. Cant tie back them normally so we use wire tensioners.
Its amazing, we strung out 8000 continuous of 3/8 for our pump line. Tried tensioning with a 120hp tractor, didnt even budge the other end.

Chuck, we currently have about 150 miles of mainlines out at the big woods. When its all said and done itll be over 300 miles. Currently have about 500 miles of 5/16 tubing out. Its alot to keep up out of the snow!
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2019, 08:14:06 AM »
We had one day this summer we set a company record- we put up 20,500ft of mainline in a day, nearly 4 miles. Two guys pulling, one guy keeping the pipe uncoiler spinning and swapping rolls of pipe. Wasnt even that late of a day, out of the woods by 4:30. Previously we had been getting about 10,000ft a day out.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2019, 08:15:57 AM »
Interesting stuff, sounds like relearning to string pipe and wire. Sounds like fun though! It's all 9 guage down here but no ones running enough taps for 4" pipe.

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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2019, 08:38:13 AM »
Very interesting read.  Amazing amount of infrastructure going up into the forest.  
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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2019, 08:40:36 AM »
Sitting around with the day off because of rain and warm weather no need to tap and were tight as can be. So here are some pictures I found of a fun little tubing install me and 2 friends did this December 160 taps in one day brushing to drops in so made some money but boy was she steep. Me in first pic.












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Re: Maple Syrup 2019
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2019, 09:57:06 AM »
Great pictures Celliott. 
Nice work Plakton, it is steep
Who is using the 3/16 self vacuuming lines yet?
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2019, 04:45:33 PM »
Lots of people around here are removing the 3/16 lines and going back to the 5/16!

The 5/16 will create a vacuum also, as long as it has enough sap to satisfy it!

Certain setups will run really well with the 3/16, but not all of them!

It also makes a difference if the line is "gravity" or if it's "vacuum"
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« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2019, 09:52:15 AM »
 I still rebuilding the new sugar house after the old one's rotted frame and rock foundation started falling in last sugar season. Here's some picts of the new one.


 
 My home made rafter's.


 
 First rafter up I used the tractor and grapple holding a cordwood pole to put them up.


 
 It's coming along but needs a lot more before I tap any trees.

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« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2019, 03:43:17 PM »
Looking really nice, Ed!  8)
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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2019, 05:19:40 PM »
Nice work Ed! I like the trusses, that isn't going anywhere. You are in Mass and I see n snow, you lucky dog. My cousin started his in late summer in spare time and got it closed in early October, now still doing finish work. Hope you get it done in time, that's a big'un!
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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2019, 06:05:11 PM »
A few have tapped in this area now!
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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2019, 06:29:10 PM »
Looking good Ed, not much snow on the ground. When will your season start?
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2019, 03:02:50 AM »
Beautiful pictures everybody, thanks for posting! I haven't been in a sugarhouse for 3 or 4 years
 I'm hoping for a move soon that will be easier for me to get out helping again
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2019, 08:43:01 AM »
 I should be tapping end of next week. Still have a lot of setting up to do to the arch an pans. Or I'd be tapping this week.
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2019, 08:12:06 PM »
Nice looking sugar house! How many taps do you run over there?

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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2019, 08:20:43 AM »
 Small operation running 400 taps on 10 ac. I've got to thin it out according to the management plan I developed with my forester. Planned on logging this winter but it's sugar season and I cut maybe 10 trees. It's just plain hard to cut a maple ;D.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2019, 11:22:44 AM »
I'm not tapped yet. Looking at our long range forecast we won't get more than a tease amount until March 11. We are now just fixing lines and changing drops. We will have between 900-1000 taps if we finish it all. We are changing my lease woods to get more vacuum. For years it has been on a vacuum tank and I regulated the vacuum down to 19". This year I'm changing to a bigger pump (Alamo 100 with after market oil drippers) and using a double vertical releaser, hope to get 24-25". Maybe next year get a better pump to get max. possible vacuum at the lease. At the sugarhouse my old BB4 gives me 26-27". Not likely to invest in a better pump there for maybe 1" or so gain.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2019, 11:26:22 AM »
Even maples need thinning to open the canopy which then fills in for higher sap sugar %. Maples make good fuel too, if it's not lumber quality.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2019, 03:43:11 PM »
We went up to the sugarhouse today and flushed the cleaner out of the RO.

Tomorrow we will drain that rinse and then we'll be ready to go!

We haven't tapped yet, maybe another week!

We'll have a little over 1,200 taps again this year, next year we should have 1,500! 
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