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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2019, 11:29:30 AM »
Thank you all for the help and advice, especially Dave and Percy and for informing me  The Indy office is open till noon.
This mill is also a 2003 and has the command control. Calling the office confirmed what Dave and Percy said, a 6 foot expansion can be bolted on with no further modifications needed.

 Yes, the woodmizer is not my favorite brand but if I was going to get a mill from them, it would be an LT 70. So Iím going to go back and suggest to my associate that we make a move trying to try and procure this mill.Thank you again for your help.
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2019, 11:36:10 AM »
Try it, you might like. You may find the emperor is a pretty good guy after all.  :D
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2019, 10:33:34 PM »
8,000 hours sight unseen would worry me, be it Ford, Chevy, Woodmizer, John Deere, or Lexus.

If I was to buy it, I would carry it immediately to the nearest WM facility for a drop off, inspection and refit, as needed, before I cut the first log on it.  Bearings, rollers, blade guides, pads, belts, oil, hydraulics, hydraulic cylinders, bed rails, electrical cables, backstops, mast pads, raise lower chains, gearbox, feed chains, traverse gears, batteries, relays, lubemizer filters, check valves, debarker blade, swing motor, etc could all be worn to the point where it couldnít cut a straight piece of balsa wood. Thereís a difference between it working, and it being dialed in.  No telling if they babied it, used it, abused it, or trashed it. 

I have my mill serviced on the WM service loop every couple years by a guy whose been doing it forever, and he finds things I didnít even see.  If thereís nothing wrong with it, it wonít cost much.  
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2019, 12:41:10 PM »
Along the lines of what Yellow said(good advice), my 2003 lt70 had two serious  failures during the 8000 hour era. The up down gearbox failed  ( head dropped about a foot violently. The brass worm gear wore out. 
The second major problem was the pulleys for the main drive belt had worn to the point where the belt was  bottoming in the grooves causing much grief  for a few hundred hours till I determined  the cause of my problems. I have changed all cam followers at least three times in 11,000 hours. 

Theses failures are not unrealistic considering the age and use of my machine. Just things to look for and condsider. 

Price points vary with location. I have my lt70 listed at 30,000 Canadian with my insurance company which is is about 22,500 US. These numbers might be considered high but absolutely everything works on my mill. 

Good luck with this. 
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2019, 05:02:51 PM »
Brad,
If you already have an attitude about WM mills buying a mill with 8000 hours might be a big mistake.
Not trying to be snarky,just an observation to help eliminate buyers remorse.
Timberharvesters are great mills and it is a shame they are no longer around.Doesn't Cook's make a mill that would suit your needs?
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2019, 10:30:06 PM »
Brad, An LT70 Electric mill is truly an all AC mill. The drive motor, up- down motor, debarker motor, and even the hydraulic pump motor are all Industrial AC motors. Mill has no battery or alternator. It has no autoclutch to disengage the blade while the motor is still running. Motor energized the blade is turning. This is the major reason I don't own an electric 70. The diesel mill has an autoclutch option.

 At 8000 hrs I would have to go see it prior to making a commitment. Make sure that this mill has a fully functional Accuset II setworks. You will find it extremely frustrating to hit your mark on the height scale without it. The head up and down speed is really fast moving. Another issue to check out with an 8000 hr mill is the 4 main bed rails. These can sag, bend down in the middle, depending on the percentage of large logs it has sawn. No support in middle of rails. Only on the outer ends. Not big issue, rails are easily replaced. They bolt on. There is a field fix to stop this issue in the future.

   If over all blade life becomes an issue, look in to replacing the belted bandwheels with crown steel wheels. For maximum blade life, crown steel wheels are the only option. Hope this helps.
   
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2019, 08:36:29 AM »
 Thank you all, especially for the detailed descriptions of what I may expect. As much as I need a machine quickly, I have copied your replies to this thread and sent them to my associate. I have convinced him to let me enjoy my vacation in Florida in peace this week and let me address it when I get back home next week instead of him trying to strike a deal without me looking closely at the mill.
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2019, 09:08:58 AM »
Excellent idea brad.
Sometimes relaxing and putting an idea at arms length is the best thing to do.
Good luck with your endeavor.
You might check with elmoe.
Last time visited 2 years ago he had a 70, I think electric that he planned to install in his building. 
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Re: Woodmizer advice needed please
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2019, 05:01:31 PM »
2014 LT70 electric will be a DCS sawmill. It will accept a 6 foot or 12 foot bed extension. To add a bed extension you will need to replace the Festoon cables.

074069 is the Mounting Kit with cables for the 12 foot and 074068 is the Mounting Kit with cables for the 6 foot.
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2019, 09:07:24 PM »
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