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Re: Chainsaw fuel help please
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2019, 11:20:53 AM »
I just learned my plastic Nalgene fuel bottle is a collectors item. Highly desired, and bring north of $80 on ebay. I was looking for a backup in case something happened to mine. I like that as my backpack fuel when I have to go crosscountry to cut. I've saved a metal quart of premix, but the neck's too small to fit my epa 1G can spout inside, so it's harder to fill. You also can't see inside. The plastic is nice cause you can see how much is in it without peering down the neck.

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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2019, 11:53:59 AM »
I use the stihl oil and correct me if I am wrong, but I was told it has stabilizer in it.  Here is a pic of it with may container which the oil and gas can match volume.  Prob. a metric to sae thing, but used to not be able to get a 1 dose oil container to match you fuel container size.  These are both for 2.5 gallons.  The spring loaded on off button helps to not slosh gas all over or over filling.  You really do not want gas all over you clothes and to operate a hand held internal combustion engine.




 




 




 







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Re: Chainsaw fuel help please
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2019, 07:29:25 PM »
:D If you all don't mind I think I'll set this one out .This grand old debate is endless and amusing .Do carry on but remember --spare the oil spoil the saw . ;)
Lol, are you trying to say oil threads get opinionated. 
" spare the the oil spoil the saw " ?
Old testament ?

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2019, 07:40:55 PM »
 When this started I do recall writing:
Asking about oil types can provoke interesting discussions

:) :)
I use the same system as Doc, but with a 1.1 gal jug and the smaller husky oil suited to that size (or the generic with a metering cup on the bottle). I too like those gas can spouts for the saw but because the nozzle JUST fits in the fuel hole I have managed to spill gas half the time I fill it anyway because I don't see it when it gets near the top. You just can't help some guys.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2019, 09:22:01 PM »
:) :)
I use the same system as Doc, but with a 1.1 gal jug and the smaller husky oil suited to that size (or the generic with a metering cup on the bottle). I too like those gas can spouts for the saw but because the nozzle JUST fits in the fuel hole I have managed to spill gas half the time I fill it anyway because I don't see it when it gets near the top. You just can't help some guys.
At least you don't spill it every time now!!!   8)

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« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2019, 10:05:16 PM »
:D If you all don't mind I think I'll set this one out .This grand old debate is endless and amusing .Do carry on but remember --spare the oil spoil the saw . ;)
Lol, are you trying to say oil threads get opinionated.
" spare the the oil spoil the saw " ?
Old testament ?
Yes you might say opinionated --to extremes .Then when you get to the gas it really gets amusing .More actual "old school " than old testament . ;)

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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2019, 10:09:26 PM »
I have never met him in person, but I'm betting that old greenhorn is both a little oily and a little gassy.  cause he seems a lot like me!!! :-\ smiley_airfreshener smiley_beertoast  just kiddin OG.

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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2019, 10:18:35 PM »

At least you don't spill it every time now!!!   8)
No not every time, in fact rarely, but I have to be really mindful when I pour. When I do miss, I cuss at myself a lot, but I am lazy, and neat so even then, the fuel is not on me, but I hate having it all over the saw. I started a habit my Dad taught me when I was a kid and I don't mention it because most folks think it's weird, but he taught me to take a rag and wipe off the caps (sawdust, grit, etc) BEFORE I open them so nothing can go in the tank when I remove them, it makes sense and I always do it. I also wipe the residue off after I put the caps back on to minimize what would get 'collected' by the spillage when I am running the saw.
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« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2019, 10:21:39 PM »
I have never met him in person, but I'm betting that old greenhorn is both a little oily and a little gassy.  cause he seems a lot like me!!! :-\ smiley_airfreshener smiley_beertoast  just kiddin OG.
Aren't we all from time to time?
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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2019, 10:24:09 PM »

 I started a habit my Dad taught me when I was a kid and I don't mention it because most folks think it's weird, but he taught me to take a rag and wipe off the caps (sawdust, grit, etc) BEFORE I open them so nothing can go in the tank when I remove them, it makes sense and I always do it.
I /try/ to do that, but I don't have my rag with me half the time. I still try to brush it off with a glove if there's a lot of funk on it. After that, I don't worry about cleaning it. If I slop on the saw, I figure it'll come off with use. I'm not much on cleaning saws anyway. I clean it functionally. Just get rid of the crud that can affect operation, but I don't much care what it looks like.

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« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2019, 10:45:06 PM »
I /try/ to do that, but I don't have my rag with me half the time. I still try to brush it off with a glove if there's a lot of funk on it. After that, I don't worry about cleaning it. If I slop on the saw, I figure it'll come off with use. I'm not much on cleaning saws anyway. I clean it functionally. Just get rid of the crud that can affect operation, but I don't much care what it looks like.
AT this point I am thinking poor KAR has no idea how his simple request has gone so far awry from what he hoped  :D. I think he got what he was looking for though. 
Lxsklir, I don't know if you and I could work together  ;D I think cleaning saves on a lot of repair time. I was in a class a while back and the instructor took the side plate off the saw and laid it by the side as he explained the things he was teaching about. As he talked, I quietly picked up the side plate, took out my pocket knife and cleaned it off all the junks and gunks that was crammed into every corner. When he picked it put up to put in on again, he said "this isn't mine, where did I lay mine?" I told him that was his, I just cleaned it and he said I got ahead of him. Cleaning solves a lot of problems before they start, but that's just my take. :)
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2019, 11:10:48 PM »
After I'm done for the day, I brush the inside of the sprocket cover with a toothbrush. I don't worry about all the crevices unless I don't want to go inside yet, but don't want to do real work either. I'll sit on a stump and pick crud out of the cracks, but they just get filled again on the next cut. It's just busy work.


The bar gets cleaned and flipped whenever it comes off the saw. If it doesn't come off, it doesn't get cleaned, but it usually comes off at least once a session, unless it was just a few quick cuts.


Air filter gets checked every so often. Moreso when cutting vines cause of the weed debris. I used up a whole chain before I cleaned the filter on my 362, and it only marginally needed it then. I have to knock the dust out of the echo every couple times I take it out for vines.



I don't care at all about the outside of the case. Brush off the louvers for the air intake is about it.

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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2019, 11:14:48 PM »
i clean inside the chain guard so that it can be tightened up without stuff under the case that may cause it to loosen up too quick.

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« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2019, 04:52:00 AM »
I /try/ to do that, but I don't have my rag with me half the time. I still try to brush it off with a glove if there's a lot of funk on it. After that, I don't worry about cleaning it. If I slop on the saw, I figure it'll come off with use. I'm not much on cleaning saws anyway. I clean it functionally. Just get rid of the crud that can affect operation, but I don't much care what it looks like.
AT this point I am thinking poor KAR has no idea how his simple request has gone so far awry from what he hoped  :D. I think he got what he was looking for though.
Lxsklir, I don't know if you and I could work together  ;D I think cleaning saves on a lot of repair time. I was in a class a while back and the instructor took the side plate off the saw and laid it by the side as he explained the things he was teaching about. As he talked, I quietly picked up the side plate, took out my pocket knife and cleaned it off all the junks and gunks that was crammed into every corner. When he picked it put up to put in on again, he said "this isn't mine, where did I lay mine?" I told him that was his, I just cleaned it and he said I got ahead of him. Cleaning solves a lot of problems before they start, but that's just my take. :)
Good story and it just makes sense to try to blow/wipe/brush off dust and dirt and woodchips when opening and pouring new stuff in to any tank.
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2019, 12:29:48 PM »
Since I started using a grinder to sharpen my chains I have to take them off to sharpen.  Before putting them back on  I use my air compressor to clean the chain cover and saw.  Easier and better job than using a rag.  Wont work in the woods but normally with 2 saws I only need to sharpen at home and not have to switch chains.
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2019, 02:13:02 PM »
I always keep a paint brush with the saw kit, perfect for brushing away debris from oil/fuel caps. My first job as a twenty-something year old was at a road commission, and the chainsaws were always put away clean, sharp and full of fuel in preparation for that midnight storm damaged tree in the roadway. Still have that habit.
      I agree with earlier posts about canned pre-mix fuel, it would save alot of trouble if the saws sit on the shelf as much as cut. 

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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2019, 02:17:14 PM »
Well well well. That did promote quite a debate!

Thank you all for your recommendations and huge experience.

I have decided to go the sensible route and use genuine Husqvarna two stroke oil and Husqvarna's chain oil too. Regarding petrol, I will likely use "super unleaded" fuel provided by UK petrol filling stations AFTER confirming it's constituents are ethanol free.

One last question, what are the benefits of mineral vs synthetic vs semi-synthetic 2 stroke oils?

I really appreciate the input thank you again, from across the pond. 

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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2019, 03:03:38 PM »
My impression is synthetic is more robust than dino oil. Holds up to temperature longer, and flows better at all temps. I'm not a chemist, and haven't spent a lot of time studying it, so take that for what it's worth. Synthetic blends are supposed to convey some of the benefits of synthetic at a lower price. IMO, the price drop isn't enough to bother. I use full synthetic lubricants for just about everything, but if you gave me decent dino oil, I'd use it. Using my own money, I buy synthetic.

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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2019, 03:10:16 PM »
One last question, what are the benefits of mineral vs synthetic vs semi-synthetic 2 stroke oils?
Well, Kar, I did warn you, and you got what you asked for and just a tad more, eh?  :D

 Now why did you go and poke the bear again? (I gotta go get more popcorn.)
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2019, 09:39:02 PM »
Blue or red. Semi or full synthetic.


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