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Re: 1st Day of Revenue
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2019, 04:11:37 PM »
   I made my Magic hook from an old headless cant hook from a flea market, 3' of 1/4" chain, a cold shut to connect the two and a chain hook on the other end. It works fine but if you make one from a Logrite hook I assure you it will work better as their hooks are much sharper and probably stronger. Mine was dirt cheap.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2019, 04:36:03 PM »
This is the band I talked about in my original post. We hit a lag and it bent all of the teeth in the same direction at almost a 90 degree angle. I think Woodmizer resharp would have their hands full trying to reset this one   :o.  (Image hidden from quote, click to view.)

I've never bent or seen teeth bent like that.  You might want to consider saving that one for the day you want to start a band saw destroyed sawing blade museum.  That one is definitely a conversation piece.
The blade that terrifictimbersllc removed from his mill at Bruno's in September '18 would be another museum or conversion piece.
In my opinion both of those blades are not remanufacturable to original specifications.
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Re: 1st Day of Revenue
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2019, 05:23:05 PM »
If you havent already spend the money on a metal detector and catch up those items before the sparks if possibles.

Sometimes its just easier to save the bad one for the end and discuss firewood option vs blade costs :)

Keep up the sawdust and post pics, congrats on the successful day.b
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Re: 1st Day of Revenue
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2019, 05:37:17 PM »
This is the blade GAB is referring to that was "re-manufactured" at Bruno's. Haven't found out what did it. 



 
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Re: 1st Day of Revenue
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2019, 05:54:59 PM »
I have had one blade that hit something and turned all the teeth the same direction.  It was a bundle of 3/8" chain that someone had 'stored' in the crotch of pecan tree many years ago.  No stain, stopped immediately, didn't cut through a single link and had to chainsaw the plank, couldn't back out when all the teeth were turned almost 90 to the same side.


 

Ceramic insulators don't turn the teeth, was able to resharpen this one but it only cut about 1/8" into the surface before I got it shut down.


 
This one stripped the teeth off the blade (didn't get a photo of the blade), and stopped it dead in its tracks.  Armor piercing round (no where near a firing range).


 
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2019, 06:04:59 PM »
 

 



 
Don't forget T fence posts.  This one was driven into a SYP log about 45' from the butt and broken off beneath the bark.  :o
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2019, 06:18:56 PM »
I can't get over how deep some of the wire, nails and screw are under the bark and how deep it can go, crazy.
Congratulations on getting started .... and on not giving up on your first day ! :)   Urban salvage has to be one of the most frustrating jobs you could take on.
As far as "deep" in the log .... here's a quickie story ...
I live in a an underpopulated area of the the North. A few years ago a friend and I took on a tree removal job for a friend with a cottage on a northern lake.  We took out 14 old growth Spruces, running 30"+ at the butt, and got 42 saw logs, 10-1/2' long each. I sawed them for myself and did 4/4 boards all the way around the logs, down to an 8" cant.  I needed a few 4"x4"s, so I split one of the 8" cants in half .... and dead centre in that first cant was a nail.  The angle that is was driven into the log suggests it was put there to hang something on.   When the tree I was cutting was young enough for someone to drive a nail into the pith, the ONLY people with nails in that wilderness were gold prospectors ..... and the prospector that hung his wet clothes to dry on that nail cost me a band !!  That nail had been there 100+ years....  If you want to know where that tree came from, look up Watabeag Lake, Ontario.
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« Reply #27 on: March 10, 2019, 07:46:29 PM »
I hit this musket ball with the Peterson chain slabber. It was put into a sycamore tree in about 1860.

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« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2019, 08:03:53 PM »
MM

I've got a log tong we don't use at all, I'm going to convert it to a MM Special, thanks for the pic.

I know the trash in the trees cost us $$, but I find it very interesting the variety, age and wondering why and when the metal is there. 

I haven't seen a lot of damaged blades compared to you guys, but the pic of the one I  posted seemed rare. Looks like the same thing happened to TtS. Ours was also stuck fast and we had to chain saw it out. 
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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2019, 08:22:15 PM »
Soooo, realistically, how much damage to a blade can be repaired? If there are a few teeth 50% buffed off, is it toast? Do you send in your damaged blades with the dull blades and just let Resharp decide which ones to replace. I know the shark toothed blade is a goner, just wondering how much it too much?
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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2019, 08:57:16 PM »
Realistically it may seem that we are constantly hitting metal but in actuality, not so much.  Unusual pictures are good for conversation for many years.  :D

I have several metal detectors but they are for my customer's use if they want to scan to possibly avoid a metal strike and save themselves $25.  I don't scan logs because I would then be spending my time scanning instead of sawing.  Maybe harsh, but they are the customer's logs and the customer's nails.

I no longer send metal strike blades back to Resharp.  They have become compromised and will/might leave tooth tracks so I won't saw another customer's logs with a previous customer's damaged blades.  He paid me $25 for it so it goes into the junk bin.
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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2019, 09:13:46 PM »
That's about what I thought. I hadn't planned on sending any of my metal strike blades back. Why pay for shipping on something that will just be replaced. 

I've worked out, what I believe to be a fair deal, with the customer regarding metal strikes. I will be ordering a Dcoil type metal detector tomorrow to scan logs prior to sawing, at least for this job. I have the good fortune of having my dad work with me, he's soon to be 84 and in great shape physically and mentally. As a matter of fact, he still drives our tractor trailer occasionally. I figured the DOT physical doctor would take care of whether he could drive or not, but he just passed another one with flying colors thumbs-up. Sorry, I digress. Anywho, he really likes hanging around the mill and looks forward to things like scanning for metal. Should save us a few $$s.
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2019, 09:22:38 PM »
   I'm with MM on the metal checking and strikes. Leave that responsibility on the customer. If you scan, miss deep metal then ruin a blade it's your blade. If he scans and misses one its his blade. Why take on unnecessary risk?
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« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2019, 06:26:25 AM »
I don't save nail hit blades, Some jobs you hit a lot.


 
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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2019, 08:43:39 AM »
I have saved many boxes of reject blades with the thought of using them as reinforcement steel in the next concrete pour that I do.  Probably the only thing wrong with that idea is ever pouring concrete again!!    :o   What could I be thinking??   ::)      
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2019, 08:50:46 AM »
Hmmm,

Saw blades, saw teeth, tying it up, might be interesting. We pour a lot of concrete. I'd love to see the engineer's look when they see our guys tying up sawblades in a slab or wall  :D.
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2019, 09:46:06 AM »
I doubt that it would ever meet any engineer's spec.  The blade sides would sorta thin the concrete "thickness" by one inch whichever way it was turned, but in my instance, there is never an engineer and I always pour too think anyway.  ::)
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2019, 10:12:23 AM »
Congratulations on your first paid gig! I hope you learn a ton, make some money, and get a repeat customer in the end. 
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