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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2019, 08:50:38 AM »
YH
The city I used to live in needed permits,drawings,stamps and inspections for every step.
Built a lot of things in that town .
You don't have a lumber yard that does plans,stamps and has a install crew?
LaValley building supply does this in NH,Vt,and Maine.
I did some projects with them when I had a crew.They have a wood truss shop.
I built 2 big truck garages for one of my old customer's.
It's very nerve racking putting up 40 ft clear span 6/12 wood roof trusses.
Until it's all braced and sheathed the chances of it falling in on its shelf is real.
My nerves can't take that stuff anymore.
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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2019, 08:56:54 AM »
Red iron building are built around here.
But aren't the best when you add heat to them, lots of problems with ice build up on the roofs and mould problems .
When the chunks of ice slide off they smash on the side walls and can hurt someone.
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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2019, 09:51:12 AM »
Considering spans, permits, insurance, time, and flexibility it's hard to beat those steel buildings.  Form follows function.  Leave a side or two open, then close it later if you change your mind. 

You can build a timber-framed office for eye candy.

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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2019, 09:54:09 AM »
I too am a "form fits function" guy.  I like it when everything looks like what it is!  Steel pole buildings are just fine in my world.  Probably something I will end up doing at some point-contracting for a steel pole building, to house my sawmill and to enclose a small living quarters.  And thanks YellowHammer.  I would actually enjoy owning a building like that.  I do suppose these iron-framed buildings cost more initially than more conventional post-framed steel buildings.

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« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2019, 10:03:11 AM »
The floor question seems more complex than the building question to me.  I'm intrigued by some of these alternatives to concrete that have been mentioned.  I suppose the floor could even be a hybrid, with some concrete where necessary.  I wonder how hard-packed clay or sand holds up to tire traffic from fork lifts or loaders. 
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« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2019, 10:10:28 AM »
My preference for big spans would still be wood posts and beams, but go to web trusses built from gal pipe for the rafters and timber batten rather than Z or C sections. Corrosion prevention and all that -I've got a big problem coming in about 15 years with all the cheap sheds here.... they've got back to back C sections for rafters and z's for purlins and the sawdust hangs in them and if you get up and scrape it away you can see the wood acid is slowly eating into the galvanising. Gotta be someone who can draw a plan, and I'd rather pay him and build with wood which we all know we can kinda make cheap than pay for steel

And dont ever believe they're strong just because they've got an engineers stamp. Everything here is built to hurricane standards, they can withstand 200mph wind gusts because an engineer said so.





 

Yeah right!

That was my mill shed post TC Yasi, the thing was a write off. Best guess is she got enough wind pressure inside to lift it and the apex haunches failed, and then she dropped in the middle and the posts bent as it came down. I dont got much faith in engineer approved design any more for some reason. :D
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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2019, 11:18:52 AM »
Yellowhammer,
Your big showroom Bld has alot of potential for curb appeal, have you thought of siding over the metal clad walls with wood, board n bat or live edge lap siding maybe trim the jambs of roll up doors in bigger beam or log look.
Install graphics  of old scenes and your logo on metal roll up doors. 
Just a idea!
Curb appeal is what customers brag about.
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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2019, 04:48:35 PM »
Yellowhammer, what mean you by red iron?  Just curious, and not familiar with meaning of phrase.

thanks,
tom
Red iron is an industrial steel, coated with red primer.  Its claim to fame is easy install, wide open spans and most of the commercial buildings here use red iron.
Its the type of building Longtime shows in his photo.
Btulloh,
We have some rock hard clay here, I use it on some of our floors, and if its moist when its put down and vehicles drive on it to pack it down, when it dries, its like asphalt, maybe just a little softer, but not much.  
Some folks here will get pallets of Portland cement, and till it into the clay with their garden tiller, and when it cures, it is just dirty looking concrete.
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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2019, 08:05:33 PM »
Not the subject but- I tried to get the local building inspectors office to let me, the local sawmill issue building permits, save the town money, they wouldn't go for it.

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Re: Sawmill Building - Enclosed or Open
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2019, 09:17:14 PM »
The door on the mill is a red iron header. Engineered to code. the rest is built on the boco codes
we have. 
But me being a builder for the last 50 years I have some Ideas in this live free or die state. :D ;)


 


 


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« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2019, 09:43:25 PM »
I'm a certified hardwood structural grader... I've had a few go-arounds over the years with building inspectors, but at the end of the day one if us was an engineer and one of us was licensed to issue a structural grade to a piece of wood. Aside from one guy its all been good after the initial explanation of how grading works. Always gotta be one right?
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