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Re: Tree of the day
« Reply #720 on: July 15, 2019, 11:51:07 AM »
That is one sweet cone, must come from a pine that would have a diabetic getting nervous if they stood too close :D
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« Reply #721 on: July 15, 2019, 12:31:35 PM »
John are there any of these in your house build?
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« Reply #722 on: July 15, 2019, 04:53:32 PM »
I did find a couple cones way down on my property but I haven't bothered to figure out which tree it is, yet.  They could have bounced down the hill quite a ways.  I do have a number of bigger trees that have died (most seem to be white pine) in that area, maybe one is this tree.  It would be exceedingly difficult to get the whole tree up to the cabin.  I may have to relocate my mill down there to make use of all that timber.  My neighbor has a view of a lone tree about 1/4 mile from their back porch - interesting how the cones grow way out at the tips.
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« Reply #723 on: July 15, 2019, 06:21:23 PM »
Don't those pines get to be over 250' tall....if a squirrel drops one of those cones on your head from 250' I'll send my condolences to your family.
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« Reply #724 on: July 15, 2019, 06:32:17 PM »
Yes, tallest of all pines.
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« Reply #725 on: July 15, 2019, 06:35:13 PM »
if a squirrel drops one of those cones

I was camping once in my pop up trailer (tent bunk ends).  My truck was out front (maybe 15' away) with my aluminum canoe still on the lumber rack.  About 6 am or so, I hear what I thought was a propane tank exploding. :o DanG squirrel dropped a green cone about the size of a small cantaloupe from about 100'+ up onto the canoe.  And then repeated it again the next morning, after I moved my truck further away from the tree! >:(
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« Reply #726 on: July 15, 2019, 08:49:55 PM »
Sugar pine, Pinus lambertiana I suspect.
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« Reply #727 on: July 15, 2019, 08:57:55 PM »
In Id'ing the lumber sugar tends to have some kind of unique very small pin knot clusters we would call cat's paw. Back in the day it was the preferred wood used by patternmakers for foundry work. It is stable and easily worked.

We were touristing through the giant Sequoia's and a person in the group scavanged a giant cone from one of those monsters, well it was a big cone, it must have come from one of those, nah it was one of these cones :D.
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« Reply #728 on: July 15, 2019, 08:58:53 PM »
Yes, these sweet cones are from the Sugar Pine.  Native to California and Oregon and possibly Nevada and even Mexico.  It can attain a height of 250 feet and upto 7í diameter.  It is a white Pine and so has needles in groups of five.
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« Reply #729 on: July 15, 2019, 10:31:12 PM »
I hope caveman doesn't mind if I hop in with another pine. I took the scenic route to town and went up on a ridge in the national forest today. These are a few pics of another minor yellow pine. It has been slowly leaving the landscape since the late '20's, it needs more fire. Not endangered but not that common.
It typically does not have great form and usually grows on the dry higher shaley ridges of the Appalachians.




Here's the needles closer







  
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« Reply #730 on: July 15, 2019, 11:08:05 PM »
Good one.  How many times Iíve leafed past this pine in my book on the table and never really read about it.  Looks a lot like Virginia pine, except for those cones.  I have a feeling Caveman will approve.
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« Reply #731 on: July 16, 2019, 07:03:52 AM »
The umbo's are considered armed.  The needles, while two to the fascicle like virginia pine, are much more thicker, stouter, and stiffer.  Almost prickly.  These characteristics set it apart from the other two needle pines at the table. 
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« Reply #732 on: July 16, 2019, 07:20:16 AM »
Glad to see we're not going to Table the IDs while caveman is on a break.
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« Reply #733 on: July 16, 2019, 09:07:32 AM »
There seems to be a mountain full of those pine.

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« Reply #734 on: July 16, 2019, 02:18:24 PM »
It sounds like you were stuck in a room with Charlie Brown's teacher :D.
No fooling you guys with this one, Table Mountain Pine, pinus pungens.
It is the only one I know with cones on the trunk as well as the branches. It is very limby and holds the dead branches forever so lots of black knots. It thrives best with frequent fires that clear out the competition and expose the soil. The cones are somewhat serotinous but you can see from the picture some do open in the absence of fire. In fire they all open and dump their seeds. On the ground in this stand I found a number of unopened cones on the ground and many the squirrels had gnawed on. The trees can hold those cones in waiting for a long time. The table mountain pines in the upper part of this stand are in tough shape, it is converting to chestnut and other oaks and white pine. I've been told that historically these ridges had fire every 5-10 years, its been close to a century right there although they did some extensive prescribed burns close to there a few years ago. I've never sawn one but I suspect it is like a tight ringed low grade Virginia pine ???
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« Reply #735 on: July 16, 2019, 05:24:03 PM »
I am sure that not many have sawn one. 
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« Reply #736 on: July 16, 2019, 05:55:50 PM »
not to mention some off us have never seen one
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« Reply #737 on: July 16, 2019, 06:00:30 PM »
Heck, I never even heard of one.
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« Reply #738 on: July 16, 2019, 06:21:47 PM »
Iíve never seen one or sawn one.
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« Reply #739 on: July 16, 2019, 06:28:30 PM »
@Don P I might be mistaken but I believe Pond Pine (P. serotina)will also form cones directly on trunk where buds get active and flower.  Trunks turning into green stalks is something to see after a pocossin burns.  Hope I didn't ruin a tree of the day.  
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