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Hickory Door
« on: May 28, 2019, 12:17:06 AM »
Within two years, I will be building  a log home.  I'll build the front door out of Hickory.  Two weeks ago, I had to cut down a beautiful Hickory tree.  Now, should I cut it into boards now and stack and sticker to store above my barn shop, or just keep the log off of the ground for up to two years?
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2019, 12:45:18 AM »
I'd saw it now, stack and sticker.
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2019, 07:05:57 AM »
I'd cut it now and cut it a little thick and stack and sticker it with a lot of weight.
You never know what hickory wants to do, I haven't cut a lot of it but what I have noticed is that the bigger the tree the straighter the wood when you mill it.
I recently cut a 12" and it cupped in 2 different directions on the same board!!!
I wound up using it for smoking wood.

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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2019, 10:01:53 PM »
Thanks Guys!  I cut it ASAP.
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2019, 10:06:52 PM »
Will 7 degree blades saw it, or will I need a blade in another degree? 
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2019, 10:13:02 PM »
PPB love hickory so be sure to spray boards with borate.  Another reason to saw.  A reason not too would be that Hickory stains badly in hot weather.  For this reason there is generally no commercial hickory log sale from May to September.  
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2019, 01:55:15 AM »
PPB love hickory so be sure to spray boards with borate.  Another reason to saw.  A reason not too would be that Hickory stains badly in hot weather.  For this reason there is generally no commercial hickory log sale from May to September.  
What is PPB?  Never heard of it down here in Texas. 
 I had to cut it down ASAP, as it looked like it was gonna uproot onto my friend's trailer.  He has phobias of leaning trees, as Harvey uprooted one on his RV trailer.  We were out in Harvey's full force trying to get the tree off of his RV, while trying to keep my 4WD Mahindra from sinking up to the axles, then tarping the trailer.......................not fun at all.
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2019, 02:10:23 AM »
Powder Post Beatles, and they do exist in Texas.
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2019, 07:37:35 AM »
Will 7 degree blades saw it, or will I need a blade in another degree?  
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I cut mine last year using a Woodmizer 7 Degree blade on my Norwood manual mill. I had no problems. It was a pretty big tree and straight I got 5 9' saw logs out of it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2019, 07:44:13 AM »
Powder Post Beatles, and they do exist in Texas.
But do they exist in Southeast Texas with all our humidity?  We have Pine Burrow (Bore?) Beetles here big time.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2019, 07:46:37 AM »
Will 7 degree blades saw it, or will I need a blade in another degree?  
hugs,  Brandi
I cut mine last year using a Woodmizer 7 Degree blade on my Norwood manual mill. I had no problems. It was a pretty big tree and straight I got 5 9' saw logs out of it.
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Thanks.  I found another thread on Turbo 7s and others cutting dry and green Hickory.
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2019, 08:00:10 AM »
Powderpost beetles love the South.  Nativewolf's advice to spray with borate is spot on.  Like has been said, it if is hot with no air flow, hickory will blotch with an ugly gray stain.  Also saw it soon as the ambrosia beetles also love hickory and will riddle the log with little black lined holes.  Powderpost beetles only infest the dry lumber whereas ambrosia beetles infest the green log. 
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2019, 04:15:44 AM »
Sorry to pop your balloon but I would not build your front door out of any wood much less hickory. As a builder I do not recommend even installing commercially made wooden doors but if a customer insists, they must sign a wavier. The problem is that the margins required for an entry door are very small and the slightest movement will result in unconditioned air making its way inside an otherwise "tight" house. If you install a wooden door, it WILL move, warp, twist, all the bad things......you cannot avoid this as you have one side conditioned and the other exposed to outside elements.

I would suggest use your hickory for a feature barn door inside and install a commercial fiberglass or steel exterior door.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2019, 06:56:16 AM »
Sorry to pop your balloon but I would not build your front door out of any wood much less hickory. As a builder I do not recommend even installing commercially made wooden doors but if a customer insists, they must sign a wavier. The problem is that the margins required for an entry door are very small and the slightest movement will result in unconditioned air making its way inside an otherwise "tight" house. If you install a wooden door, it WILL move, warp, twist, all the bad things......you cannot avoid this as you have one side conditioned and the other exposed to outside elements.

I would suggest use your hickory for a feature barn door inside and install a commercial fiberglass or steel exterior door.
Just my opinion.
Thanks for you input.  But there are several ways to build a door that can minimize what you have waivers signed for.   Challenge accepted.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2019, 07:30:53 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 12:35:33 PM »
PPB love hickory so be sure to spray boards with borate.  Another reason to saw.  A reason not too would be that Hickory stains badly in hot weather.  For this reason there is generally no commercial hickory log sale from May to September.  
Can I use a solution of water and Borax, the 20 Mule team variety?  I found how to use it here.... https://www.hunker.com/13425952/how-to-treat-wood-with-borax
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 11:35:24 PM »
I have 2006 square feet of hickory flooring in my shop.  Should I spray it with borax also?
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2019, 12:06:05 AM »
That would stop any new infestation but won't help if they are already there. Not sure what the water will do to the boards as far as warp/cupping goes depending on how dry it already is. Some of the others will have to chime in on this. 
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2019, 06:34:38 AM »
Will 7 degree blades saw it, or will I need a blade in another degree?  
hugs,  Brandi
I cut mine last year using a Woodmizer 7 Degree blade on my Norwood manual mill. I had no problems. It was a pretty big tree and straight I got 5 9' saw logs out of it.
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That's a nice tree.
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Re: Hickory Door
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2019, 07:17:57 AM »
I put a fiberglass door on my house when I built it, lasted 10-15 years. Now I have an oak door I made, just as old and still good. I made my door with 3 layers of oak not single 2". Go for the hickory.


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