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Author Topic: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?  (Read 2788 times)

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Offline bigtrees

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I have a 1947 Willys Jeep. Great body condition but the engine isn't very reliable. Still 6V system. Probably would need an engine overhaul. Also leaks a bunch of oil and differential fluid and would need some work there.

When I move to our tree farm, it's really big enough that I will need a vehicle for running around. The Willys Jeep would work well IF it actually started reliably, AND it didn't leak fluids.

There are a lot of stumps and debris on the property, and not many roads, so I need something with clearance. On my way home from work I passed a military convey and was eying their HUMVEEs. They have really high clearance and would work well for running around.

So, I am thinking about a HUMVEE instead. Might not cost a lot more than trying to fix up the Jeep and probably would be more reliable. They are a bit wide though.

Any thoughts?

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Those old WIllys are real easy to work on and there are a ton of aftermarket parts available. The HumVee on the other hand is gonna cost you something to get and then parts are another question. Likely, they will be a lot more expensive. Military stuff is very different from commercial and you will likely not be able to get many specific parts at your local supply. Having said that, I am thinking the bigger issue is the footprint. Those humvees are darn wide, and picking around between trees might be problematic. The humvee will have a much better weight and cargo capacity, depending on the configuration, and much more horsepower (fuel consumption too).
 I always think a bird in the hand.... If you rebuild the willys and it doesn't fit your needs, you can sell it for more than it is worth now. It should be a fun project and not too difficult. Try yanking the engine out of a humvee and making sense of it. (Unless you were a military mechanic.)
 A buddy of mine had an old Willys he used to bang around on his property and get him up to the skidder or landing. It went anywhere as long as it stayed upright. Parts were rotting off of it, he just kept it going. It didn't even have a gas tank, just a 2 gallon steel can in the back with a hose to the fuel pump.
 Just some thoughts for you to ponder.
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The old jeeps are cheap to fix and very easy to get parts for.

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X3 on the jeep.
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Hummer way to big. Jeep is an overgrown quad.

Jeep be better. if you want find a small V6 or a 2.5 4 cylinder from a newer jeep to swap in. You can't really lose with anything willy's.

Except you will get the jeep bug. It's all downhill from there :)

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12V conversion would make life better and itís simple and cheap to do. Even if you had to do a minor rebuild on the engine it would be worth it. Probably a new fuel pump and manifold would get you running good. Carb. Brakes. All less than the cost of a ragged out humvee.

Sounds like fun.
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Full disclosure- I have 47 CJ2a so I may be a little biased. Mine is awaiting restoration and is not currently running.
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My vote would be for the Willys (some nostalgia since I worked on restoring one about 50 years ago), but a retired military HumVee would be a major investment.  I toured a business in NC a couple of years ago that had several of them among the company's owners and family.  Be fine if you have sufficient cash flow.  

If the Willys doesn't work out, I have had a couple of clients who resolved similar needs with small 4WD vehicles from the 90s; Suzuki Samarai, Geo Tracker, and a couple of others that escape memory.  
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My vote would be for the Willys (some nostalgia since I worked on restoring one about 50 years ago), but a retired military HumVee would be a major investment.  I toured a business in NC a couple of years ago that had several of them among the company's owners and family.  Be fine if you have sufficient cash flow.  

If the Willys doesn't work out, I have had a couple of clients who resolved similar needs with small 4WD vehicles from the 90s; Suzuki Samarai, Geo Tracker, and a couple of others that escape memory.  
We love the Geo Tracker!
Another vote for the Willys.
Humvees are very costly in any direction.
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Go for the Willyís. When I lived in western Colorado we had a 46 CJ2A and 48 CJ3A. The 3A had a Koenig pto winch and it never failed us.
Sold the 46 when we moved to Ohio and the 48 got a full body off Resto with a 302 Ford and a top loader 4speed and Warn overdrive to ease the rpmís from the 5.38:1 gears.
Like everyone said they are easy to wrench on and parts are plentiful.
Something about an old flat fender just works for me. I donít think youíd regret it. JMHO

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2019, 06:45:58 PM »
I'll also throw in with the jeep, and I like Tom's idea of an old Samurai. I'd have liked one to use at work for running on big boundaries. I wouldn't even consider a humvee unless it was pretty close to free. An older compact pickup would be better if you were gonna buy something newer.

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2019, 06:52:23 PM »
Rtv utv or better yet an old tractor gets around good on no roads.  Tractors like used kubotas with a bed mount off hitch or pulling small trailer etc.  are affordable at this time.
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2019, 06:56:17 PM »
Go with the jeep. Easy to fix and narrow foot print. Not to mention terminally cool.....

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2019, 08:08:06 PM »
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2019, 08:32:02 PM »
For your stated needs the Jeep is the way to go. It will take time and some pesos to get it back into shape but it will be practical and fun.
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2019, 09:59:05 PM »
My dad ran jeeps and we were always tinkering on them.  Love to have one now.   Love the Roxor that Mihindra sells

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2019, 11:19:12 PM »
All this Jeep talk has got me thinking I should patch mine up and drive it while Iím waiting to restore it.
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2019, 08:13:06 AM »
   A buddy of mine had an old Willy's when we were in our teens and it was a great old machine but I agree with Woodpecker - get a quad or a big ATV for getting up and around in the woods. They are made for that. 
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2019, 08:19:52 AM »
Just sell me the Jeep I have some family in N.W. Montana I could stop and see when I pick up the JEEP ;D
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2019, 10:43:52 AM »
One of my departed dad's hobbies was restoring old Jeeps .He did around a dozen full body off restorations .I have the last one he ever did which is a 1965 CJ5 with a IOE 4 cylinder engine .Made from parts from 2 or 3 others plus I've got enough parts to assemble another .

Dad was over 80 when he did this one and used the o-ring valve seals which never were very good and leaked oil on the overhead intake valve stems .I've found out umbrella  seals from Ford FE model  engines should fit .Other than fouling a few spark plugs it runs just fine .Don't expect them to be speed demons because about 45 miles per hour is just about the limit .That's a low speed long stroke engine and about 4000 RPM is just about it .


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