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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2019, 11:32:28 AM »
With the primitive  stock brakes and steering I wouldn't want to go more than 45 in an old Willys. :D My bil has one, a real beater he uses for hunting. He took me for a ride on the bush trails, I quickly found out it had no brakes on top of that he was waiting for eye surgery. He couldn't see!
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2019, 12:06:05 PM »
Much depends upon your terrain and soil composition.  On my property, we tried a Jeep, Broncos, and a Suzuki Samurai.  All worked well in the Fall but as our normal rains fell, all cut deep ruts and we were forced to use the John Deere especially in January.  I have no rocks.

4-Wheelers worked very well but were not suitable for more than one person.  Enter the gas powered "Golf Car".  Great flotation and will easily carry 4 adults, even over saturated ground.  I believe that the various UTV's would also work but at a much steeper cost.

Different vehicles for different applications and locales.

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2019, 12:34:49 PM »
Hang a snow plow on the front of an old CJ some time  Talk about hard to steer .Brakes aren't a problem,just drop the plow .If they are running correctly they have plenty of power .I think they could climb a tree if they could get traction .
We've had them in the Colorado mountains hunting deer in days I wore a younger mans clothes .Had to put two guys on the front to hold the front end down in some of those ravines .
I've seen them converted to run 289 Fords and V6 Buicks that  had a lot more power,used more gas and tore up the drive lines.They would not go any place better that old 65 HP 4 banger would.

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2019, 01:35:51 PM »
I say go with the Humvee and sell me the Jeep:)

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2019, 12:04:46 AM »
Side by sides (I have a Polaris Ranger) are very handy when you own land.  My Ranger is a much quicker ingress / egress than a Jeep or HMMVW would be.

The best all-around off-road Jeep that Iíve ever been in was a M151A2.  It was the last model before the HMMVW came out and is incredible off-road.
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2019, 06:17:55 AM »
My dad sold a 1948 CJ2A to a guy in Colorado sight unseen .That fellow drove that thing from northwestern Ohio to Denver .1200 miles and it took him 4 days at 45 MPH .The minimum speed on the interstate highways is 40 MPH .Wise choice to only drive day light hours because the lights on those things were not very good .Not a good plan to get ran over by a semi on interstate 70 .He called dad when he got there .Said the old Jeep never missed a lick .

In those days,1980 the old Jeeps were at a premium in the mountain states .That $ 1500 he gave would have cost him twice that in Colorado.Dad took that money and bought 3 more junkers and restored two of the three .Some of those left over parts are in a big pile in my shop as I type .I think the CJ5 I have is one of them .
I might take dad a year to do a body off restore .He wasn't in a hurry as he always had one in running condition to plow snow etc .In that pile in my shop is two front drive winches ,one capstan and one cable .The rear power takeoff assembly plus a gear drive  rear winch .Plus a very  creative front drive dad made using a long shafted Ford starter with link chain reduction.Having said that I came by my junk yard dog mentality honestly--it's a family tradition. ;D

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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2019, 08:38:41 AM »
  All the old jeep talk has me thinking and that is dangerous. My first car was a 51 Willy's wagon and through the years I had about a dozen jeeps of various types. Now I think I want a 1951 CJ3A or military equivalent as that was undoubtedly the best year for jeeps and people, at least that's my story. ;D 
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2019, 09:42:02 AM »
My dad ran jeeps and we were always tinkering on them.  Love to have one now.   Love the Roxor that Mihindra sells
That Mahindra Roxor does look interesting. It's basically based on the old Willy's Jeep design, but with modern upgrades. You see them all over the place in other countries. In the US, they are only legal for off-road use (some states may allow them on-road on some roads, just as some states allow the Japanese mini-trucks or UTVs on some roads). 

We have a motorcycle & ATV dealer down the road from us that sells them. I'm not sure how they are selling. If our state allowed them at least on our secondary roads (40 MPH speed limits or less), I'd bet the sales would really take off.

Back in January, I exchanged several emails with someone in the Mahindra North America facility in Michigan about future plans. They are working on a more "work-oriented" design that will have more cargo space. They are also looking at a dump bed option - EPA regs prohibit them from offering a hydraulic dump bed with their current engine configuration. EPA also limits the max they can list. When I asked "what would you list as the max. weight if there were no EPA restriction?" His answer was "4608 lbs is max possibleÖ. so almost 1000 pounds over current allowable weight."
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2019, 10:12:13 AM »
My buddy,RIP had an old Wagoner he dropped a Ford Y block 292 engine in .In spite of much more power it would still only run about 50 MPH on the roads .V8 Ford just screaming .If that engine was still in the '56 Ford it came out of at those RPM's it would be running 100 MPH .---yes before anybody asks those old Fords would do it .

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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2019, 10:16:47 AM »
its all about gearing. the reason the willy's are so good at everything is the 5.13's in the diffs. or is it 5.38's I forget but its stupid low. besides you would not want to drive one of those faster than maybe 50 mph stock.

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« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2019, 11:46:52 AM »
The front ends get so loose they walk all over the road at 30 MPH let alone 45 .You can get every part ever made and lots of after market stuff that is better than the originals .A complete frame if you want,complete body,anything .Most people don't go into front ends unless they are so worn out it won't go any where you aim it . I get my stuff out of Florida ,Midwest Willeys-Jeep .The guy who owns it is very knowledgeable .

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« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2019, 12:05:29 PM »
Let me interject another thought .I've turned wrenches on anything from bulldozers to chainsaws and a Jeep CJ is not the easiest thing to work on .Everything is shoe spooned into a short frame and narrow wheel spacing .Even on a drive on car hoist the wheel spacing is so narrow have to ride the rail on one side  .It might be easy if you have hands the size of a young child . It's a challenge just to get to the parts that need attention .

Then things like the rear axles are tapered  requiring a special puller to remove the hub to work on the brakes .
I've often said in the chainsaw section if you want a challenge try working a Mini Mac .On automotive stuff try a Jeep CJ .

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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2019, 04:08:06 PM »
I would go with something like a Polaris Ranger. Goes anywhere. Narrow to maneuver between trees and easy to get in and out of.
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« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2019, 11:00:19 PM »
With the primitive  stock brakes and steering I wouldn't want to go more than 45 in an old Willys. :D My bil has one, a real beater he uses for hunting. He took me for a ride on the bush trails, I quickly found out it had no brakes on top of that he was waiting for eye surgery. He couldn't see!
I have an early CJ5 w/buick V6 and warn overdrive.  It will cruise 70 mph highway.  You can put one of those buicks in or they have adapters for 4.3-L chevy V6, and an overdrive.
For brakes you can adapt 70-80s C10 4WD chevy disks up front.  The drums are dicey at highway speeds.
A jeep is going to go through woods a lot easier than a Humvee.

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« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2019, 08:10:31 AM »
The original military Humvees are way too big and are so loud you need to wear ear muffs inside them. They are also as mechanically unreliable as any vechicle ever built. Did I mention gas hogs? The H2s are just poorly repurposed GM pickups. One of my guys drives one now and never shuts up complaining about the 6 mpg he gets. 
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« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2019, 12:03:42 AM »
One of my guys drives one now and never shuts up complaining about the 6 mpg he gets.
Remember the saying "I'll give you something to cry about".
Send him up here. Regular is right around $4.05usd a gallon.  :D  :D That should get him riled up.
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« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2019, 10:06:08 AM »
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He would too. He's trying to make extra money driving for Uber in that hog. We don't even have urban centers so he's making 30 and 40 mile trips and getting paid $20.00.
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Re: 1947 Willys Jeep or 1990s era Humvee for running around the property?
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2019, 08:37:38 PM »
Add my vote for the Willys! I use a 47 CJ2a  on our 40 acres of steep hilly woodland almost daily. It also gets me to town on errands. It is restored... Original engine, locking hubs, Warn overdrive. Stock wheels, original style tires.  No brake problems, plenty of power from that flat head four. Easy to restore and maintain. Never let's me down!
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« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2019, 10:49:17 AM »
Where's the OP? 36 people have taken the time to respond but the OP hasn't been back.  
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