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Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« on: June 12, 2019, 05:03:45 PM »
Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 12th June, 2019, the proposal to introduce CARB type rules for Oregon.

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Does the EPA rules that allowed glider trucks to continue with old engines over-rule the state rules that might ban the old engines?

Have to leave the logs on the landing, if the Forest Owners/ Companies do not wish to up the logging rate to a level that would allow new emissions compliant logging trucks to be purchased.

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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 09:43:42 PM »
Rural Oregon and the I-5 corridor are two different worlds, sadly it's the corridor that runs ramshot over the rest of the state.  Take away ranching, farming, and logging from Oregon and there is not much left for about 85% of the state.  Fools they are.  
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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 11:08:02 PM »
That's true everywhere. 
Too many irons in the fire

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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2019, 05:35:54 AM »
This state is getting to be a pretty grim future, the valley looks at the rest of it as their nature park. The only thing this state wants is tourism and tech jobs itís getting to be pretty sad to live in such a beautiful part of the country, but itís starting to make a lot of us look at selling out and leaving. Heck one of the mills we deliver to is about an hour or so out of Portland been there forever announced last week they laid of 60% of their work force with no intention of restoring it or any of their other mills plus they are working on selling all their tree farms. One other thing that wasnít talked about in the bills that has been brought up this effects equipment as well kiss all the little guys goodbye unless Aunt Kate hands us all a big check to replace everything like California did to their industry.

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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2019, 08:22:03 AM »
Maine did the same "tourism" thing in the '90s. Call centers were going to be the new "good paying job". Well, those all left a few years later and tourism works for what, three months a year?  They keep complaining the population of the state is aging, I wonder why. 
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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2019, 08:11:35 PM »
Hang tough guy's, the future looks very bright the forestry industry...when they ban all the plastics they will need to switch to something else to package everything in. Oh wait then the tree huggers will chime in and grumble about all the overcutting and not enough trees to clean the air! Never mind I guess we are all going to be on the welfare :o

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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2019, 08:50:48 PM »
Watching........for quite a while. Can't comment as we are trying to figure out what to do...... >:(
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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2019, 08:53:30 PM »
Itís too bad this state isnít an electoral system thereís 4 or 5 counties in the whole state that control everything.

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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2019, 09:01:07 PM »
A good job this year is real estate broker in Idaho or Montana. Second best job is real estate agent Idaho, Montana. That's a fact...
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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2019, 10:26:52 PM »
I don't want to get this moved to the restricted topics area, so I'm trying to not be political. MN is a lot the same as other states, we have several counties with high populations that lean hard left that control the rest of the state. 
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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2019, 10:32:25 PM »
Same here in Virginia.  Looking at the last election by county it's a sea of red with dots of blue, but those dots have more population.  
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2019, 01:33:16 PM »
A good job this year is real estate broker in Idaho or Montana. Second best job is real estate agent Idaho, Montana. That's a fact...
Ugh, I know this dilemma all to well. I live in one of the last areas in SW Montana to be bombarded by the influx of out-of-state money, but if the last year is any indicator then our real estate market is about to explode >:( As an engineer/Surveyor it is good news, but as a woodsman and guy that likes the small town it is less than desirable.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2019, 03:06:02 PM »
I am a down to earth kind of guy and our whole problem in our country is most people don't have any common sense. My feelings are big city's yes I agree there's a air issue so most of the  big company's all ready have newer equipment that haul into New York or L.A. So get some common sense my 1987 Autocar with a 300 Cummin's is probably the oldest truck I see every day on the road. In my area it is hard to find a manual trasmission in a class eight truck most young folks can.t shift gears so manual transmission's set on the lot. so I do contribute to the greenhouse gases but my dad years ago remarked the sky's just as blue as it was when he was a young man and he was 90 at the time so here I am at 71 and looks blue to me also. When the E.P.A. got there noses into chainsaw pollution I knew then we were up a creek without a paddle.Like I said at the top of my post Common sense will we ever find it back ? 

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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2019, 03:51:26 PM »
States can't live on tourism alone.
Can't do it NH , Vt or Maine
They are all trying to its not going to happen.
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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2019, 08:06:29 PM »
Maine did the same "tourism" thing in the '90s. Call centers were going to be the new "good paying job". Well, those all left a few years later and tourism works for what, three months a year?  They keep complaining the population of the state is aging, I wonder why.
not all the call centers closed. on process in belfast has 400 working there. the flash in the pan as i called it was mbna. they built huge office buildings. for around here. there big retreat with cabins and all. he spent a lot of money and made a lot of enemies with some of his land grabs. and then they closed everything. mbna the credit card co 

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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2019, 05:31:16 PM »
In the long run, Rural America holds one trump card.  We feed those urbanites.  When the food truck doesn't roll into the suburban grocery stores every 48 hours, those folks are going to figure out that maybe they should have had a little more respect for those "deplorables". When they reach for something to wipe their butt and there is nothing there......they may get the picture. 

I'm headed out to finish cultivating the tomatoes.  May run to town and grab another case of ammo.  We can hold our corner of the world for a little while and I won't starve in the next six months anyway. 

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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2019, 09:21:54 PM »
I am stocking up on 22 shells. They are cheap.The first one might not kill them,but it will slow them down enough so the next one will.   :D  :D
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Re: Loggers protest in Salem, Oregon 2019
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2019, 09:07:19 PM »
reride 82,,, I have tried multiple times to PM you. Thanks  Rob
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2019, 12:28:19 PM »
reride 82,,, I have tried multiple times to PM you. Thanks  Rob
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I've been away from the computer for a few days. I left you a voicemail this morning.
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2019, 01:24:31 PM »
Thanks !  Rob
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