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« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2019, 03:50:46 AM »
A better pic of the carriage wheel cover and rail sawdust deflector



 
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2019, 03:54:25 AM »
Finished building the log cam dawgs, ready for paint. Still need to make the holders and cross frame supports for these.



 
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2019, 05:26:26 PM »
Getting the dawg pieces painted.

On these dawg pieces, I originally drilled the holes towards the opposite side. Last night, I plug welded them and relocated them to where they are now, drilled and fitted to each individual dawg assembly. I didn't have the original one when I marked and drilled them.



 


The cams with the dawgs in the background.



 



The original dawg and the new ones painted and drying. The slides, the smaller pieces, I still need to find the right size tube to weld to the side for it to slide on the bar between the frame rails. Still need to get and mount the cross bars for these two new dawgs.



 
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2019, 08:18:07 PM »
All painted and assembled, even touched up my original one.

Some glare that seems to be giving a colour shift. The bright red is the proper colour. Even gave my pulp hook a few shots of yellow so it stands out better if it gets laid down somewhere.



 
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2019, 01:12:05 PM »
Finished up some more parts last night, painted them this afternoon.


The two small pieces of tubing are for one end of the threaded rod slide bars. Still need to fabricate the 'U' shaped pieces to hold the other end so it's removable.



 


One additional backstop I'm adding for short logs and the log dawg slides now have the slide tube welded onto them.



 
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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2019, 09:45:09 PM »
Did you make that screw jack so you can slide it back and forth to center under your log?  Would be great to have a jack instead of a piece of 2x4.  And can't wait to see how you install your log dogs.

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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2019, 03:29:38 AM »
Did you make that screw jack so you can slide it back and forth to center under your log?  Would be great to have a jack instead of a piece of 2x4.  And can't wait to see how you install your log dogs.
The screw jacks (2) are fixed in place. They are closer to the back stops. These were already installed on my mill when I bought it last summer. I plan on installing rollers on top of those scissor jacks, but will have to lower their mounts. They have a piece of 1/4" flat bar welded across the top, should really have been a piece of angle, but so far, they've been OK.

Was going to try to explain how the log dawgs are installed. I think I'll wait and get a better pic of the installation of the current one. The two new ones will be similar. Just made the 'J' or 'U' brackets tonight. Now have all the parts for installation.

Also have a forth back stop ready to install also. This will allow me to mill logs as short as about 27" with no special set-up required.
My mill is currently set up in town. It's not close enough to the shop to reach it with the welder, will have to mobilize it to move it closer. Still have a few logs to mill first.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2019, 02:57:43 AM »
I have a new engine set aside for my mill. Will pick it up in the next day or two. It's a Pro Point (Ducar) 420cc 15HP with electric start and has a cast iron cylinder sleeve (My current one is a 2006 Lifan 389cc 13HP manual start). Both are the Honda style engines. The little extra power and electric start will be a nice convenience. According to the manual, the alternator output is only 1 amp. Would be nice if the alternator would have a little more output. Will eventually add a few LED lights for when finishing sawing at dusk.
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2019, 03:50:56 AM »
I scored an older but low usage Echo PB1000 leaf blower a few days ago. Will make mill clean up a breeze or a blast. 8)
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2019, 07:09:38 AM »
rayar, you know for $700 you can get a 22hp predator from harbor freight. With electric start. If you are going to take the time to change an engine you might as well just go big. You will not regret it. That is what I have on my mill and I am very pleased with it.

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« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2019, 01:55:48 AM »
rayar, you know for $700 you can get a 22hp predator from harbor freight. With electric start. If you are going to take the time to change an engine you might as well just go big. You will not regret it. That is what I have on my mill and I am very pleased with it.
That Pro Point 420cc 15HP (with cast iron cyl sleeve = 2X+ engine life) is currently on sale for $350 at PAL in Canada and I have a gift card from my retirement that will more than cover it. The 2006 13HP I currently have actually is not too bad, so the 15HP will just notch it up a bit. That $700 US will likely be in the $900+ CAD. range. If I wanted to wait a while, not sure how long, I could get one about the same size or a little more HP, I think 18HP, for around $300, but I have that gift card for PAL. I believe the Harbour Freight Predator engines would be similar to PALs Powerfist brand engines, a lesser engine life than the Pro Point brand I'm currently getting. The Pro Point is also suppose to have better cooling capacity.

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« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2019, 01:50:25 PM »
Picked up my new engine yesterday evening. Not sure just how soon I'll change it over. Both engines should have the same mounting configuration, have to check that out to see if I need to change anything there. Have to fabricate a battery tray/box. Also doing some research on the alternator, apparently there is an 18 amp one available (external??).
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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2019, 02:16:42 AM »
Finally finished milling the few logs that were left at the shop. Had some Jack Pine and some Maple. Now I need to mobilize the mill to move it nearer to the welder. Have two dawging stations and one back stop to add on hopefully Friday or Saturday. Making my mill better equipped a bit at a time.

The old and new engines appear to have identical mounting and crank shaft measurements, so should be a simple swap. Also need to make a simple drawing with measurements for the battery box fabrication and mounting.

Still have research to do about an external alternator as the built-in 1-amp just doesn't seem to be much. Will likely use a larger than 18AH minimum battery required as I will install a few 10W LED flood lights to assist in end of day milling and mill clean up.

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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2019, 12:55:10 PM »
I had the same issue with the 1 amp also but I have a lot more that draws form the battires, I have power feed and power for blade adjustment. I added a double pulley and a 100 amp single wire alternator, but that may be more than you want or need.
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2019, 10:32:41 PM »
I had the same issue with the 1 amp also but I have a lot more that draws form the battires, I have power feed and power for blade adjustment. I added a double pulley and a 100 amp single wire alternator, but that may be more than you want or need.
I was doing some research earlier and came up with some permanent magnet alternators in 12V with outputs in the 12 to 20 amp range. They are belt driven and actually quite small.
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2019, 10:47:06 PM »
Installed the two additional dawging stations and one additional log back stop this evening.

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front dawging station and back stop



 
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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2019, 01:55:04 PM »
 
These Kasco WoodmaxX 7 degree blades look great.

My new blades just came in yesterday, August 13th. Originally ordered these blades on June 4th (they seem to have lost my order). Picked them up last evening. Looked at the shipping papers and the label on the box and they got the wrong size. I ordered 12'-7" (173 teeth = 151-3/8") They sent me 12'-8" (174 teeth = 152-1/2") @7/8" pitch. My mills' ideal size is set for 12'-7".

 Will have to call Kasco and find out what's going on.

Tried one on for fit, it will work, but should add a shim, at least 3/8" thickness for a better set-up. I have a Cooks hinged tension set-up, not a slide, and the 12'-8" is near its' limit, and on its' up swing creating more deflection at the blade guide. It's very noticeable around a 2" bearing, 1" radius.

This will be a few hours work in changing things over and setting things back up.

174 teeth is an ideal size as it keeps its' groups of three teeth instead of missing one at the splice.




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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2019, 02:04:15 PM »
Can you put the shim under the hinge so you can still use the old blades?

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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2019, 02:22:23 PM »
Can you put the shim under the hinge so you can still use the old blades?
Can shim either side, but looking it over again, think I will do the hinge side with two pieces of flat bar.
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2019, 02:48:13 PM »

These Kasco WoodmaxX 7 degree blades look great.

My new blades just came in yesterday, August 13th. Originally ordered these blades on June 4th (they seem to have lost my order). Picked them up last evening. Looked at the shipping papers and the label on the box and they got the wrong size. I ordered 12'-7" (173 teeth = 151-3/8") They sent me 12'-8" (174 teeth = 152-1/2") @7/8" pitch. My mills' ideal size is set for 12'-7".

 Will have to call Kasco and find out what's going on.

Called Kasco to speak with Eric, but he's on vacation this week. Will have to call him next week.
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