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Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« on: July 02, 2019, 03:27:35 PM »
Hi all, thanks for having me.

I have a 10.5 acre wooded lot west of Kalispell and I've started developing it.

I have a quick question if anyone here knows... what are the plants I have circled in the photo?  If I need to provide more zoomed in pictures, I can.  

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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 03:28:49 PM »
Well I can already see the photos don't post as large as they are originally... sorry, just got started here.  I'll try to put some more zoomed in versions.

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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2019, 03:31:05 PM »
a close up would be great, but it almost looks like poison ivy so not too close.  cannot separate the leaves with the plants.
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2019, 03:33:34 PM »
I was going to say the same as Doc, it looks like Ivy. That garbage seems to do well just about anywhere. Close ups would help👍 Not too close though!😁
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2019, 03:37:58 PM »
Thanks guys, hopefully this works better:



 



 

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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2019, 03:40:59 PM »
I am now seeing two diff. plants i think.  the three leaved plant almost looks like a strawberry leaf.  hmmm.
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2019, 03:43:30 PM »
I am now seeing two diff. plants i think.  the three leaved plant almost looks like a strawberry leaf.  hmmm.
Yes they are two different plants, I cannot I.D. either of them at this time.  The serrated three-leafed one I feared was poison ivy, but I can't tell.  The other one with rows of side/side leaves are all over the place but I have no idea what they are.
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2019, 03:44:49 PM »
the serrated one may be poison oak.  i have not seen sumac but the second one is close.  
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2019, 03:56:33 PM »
the serrated one may be poison oak.  i have not seen sumac but the second one is close.  
I thought maybe, too, but, neither Poison Oak or Poison Sumac are found in northwest Montana.  Poison Ivy is occasionally, but not usually in this area.  
Here's a pic of wild strawberry, which it might be (the serrated one), but I am not physically there right now to check for fruit, etc.  


 

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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2019, 04:04:23 PM »
yes i just looked and it is claimed that ivy is the only one in montana.  Univ. of Montana Cathy Seibert was quoted in an article.  If you want to be quick, call the university.  some times you will get the run around, and sometimes in 5 seconds you are speaking with a local expert for your state.  you can also call poison control.  You can find someone who can review you pics.  We have many great foresters and I am sure when they way in, they will tell us what it is and why.  or if you have a local extension office or forester.  what is the scat from?
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2019, 04:07:15 PM »
If you have many questions, folks on FF love to work this out.  there are also apps for your phone to ID leaves.  welcome and best regards.  keep checking back for more info.
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2019, 04:10:46 PM »
Neither one is poison ivy.

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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2019, 04:14:10 PM »
Thanks guys... I appreciate it. I know the columned leaf plant isn't poison ivy but I can't figure out what it is using my not-so-great Google-Fu.

Good idea about calling local forester or University.

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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2019, 05:03:49 PM »
Poison sumac is a small tree, has a compound leaf with lots of small leaves on it, think of a walnut leaf but 1/2 - 1/3 the size with 7-13 leaflets on it. It also has a seed cluster that should be a reddish color that grows from the end of the branch. If I find any sumac I just treat it as if its poison and don't touch it.
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2019, 08:27:43 PM »
Does the three leafed one have little thorns?  Leaves look like strawberry leaves.  Could be rough cinquefoil.
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2019, 06:53:53 AM »
The three leafed one looks like raspberry to me.

Not sure on the other.  Almost looks like some kind of Oregon grape but the leaves dont look stuff enough.
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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2019, 10:40:29 AM »
Thanks guys... I'll check for thorns next time I'm on site.

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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2019, 01:21:42 PM »
Ok after further searching, looks like the 3-leaf plant is Tiarella Trifoliata (known as threeleaf foamflower, sugar scoop, or laceflower:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiarella_trifoliata


Looks like the columned leaf plant is a variant of wild sarsaparilla (Aralia nudicaulis).  I still can't really tell but it's the closest I've found so far:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aralia_nudicaulis




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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2019, 02:12:33 PM »
I would have to disagree.  Still looks like wild strawberry to me for the first one.  On the second one, it looks like leathery leaves, along the lines of a salal or Oregon grape, but I do not think it is either one of those. OG has more elongated than round leaves and more distinctive "pokeys" (my 4 yr old Granddaughter's term). Salal has no thorn type edges. The sasparilla picture provided does not look leathery at all.

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Re: Northwest Montana Plant I.D. Please
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2019, 02:32:14 PM »
I would have to disagree.  Still looks like wild strawberry to me for the first one.  On the second one, it looks like leathery leaves, along the lines of a salal or Oregon grape, but I do not think it is either one of those. OG has more elongated than round leaves and more distinctive "pokeys" (my 4 yr old Granddaughter's term). Salal has no thorn type edges. The sasparilla picture provided does not look leathery at all.
I think you might be right... I found a better picture of Montana wild strawberry and it looks to be an exact match.  Here:


 
The second one is still driving me crazy... the place is covered in it, it's everywhere.  I would have thought it would be easier to identify.  I'll keep digging.
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