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My attempt at free hand milling
« on: September 07, 2019, 09:13:59 AM »
I apologize in advance to those of you who are competent and experienced millers... I am neither of those.

A few months ago while perusing the firewood section I saw an add for a huge maple log. The person had just cut down an old tree and had the huge trunk left. It was over 12' long and slightly over 2' diameter at the widest.

On a whim I messaged him but quickly decided I wasn't going to get it as I didn't want to cut it into firewood and I didn't have a ripping chain and wasn't looking to buy one. A week later he messaged me back asking if I was still interested... I figured it was a sign from a wiser power than I so I bought a ripping chain and went to pick it up.

It was a beautiful tree, way to big and heavy for me to manipulate as was so I cut it into 3'-4' lengths which I could load onto my dolly and the homeowner was kind enough to then help me lift into my truck. It was all we could do to get them into my truck and by the time I was done my poor little Chev S-10 did not look happy.



I got home and unloaded them 



A few days later proceeded to "mill" them freehand with my Poulan Pro PR5020 with 20" bar and ripping chain. 










All in all it went decent. I made them pretty thick as I knew there would be some variation due to freehanding it.



Once they are dried I'm planning rip them into 2x2's, glue them together and make a nice bench top out of them for my reloading or gunsmithing bench. 

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Re: My attempt at free hand milling
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2019, 09:18:24 AM »
My thoughts are that your first attempt was a complete success.  8)
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2019, 09:52:09 AM »
Nice job  :^)

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2019, 10:08:56 AM »
Thanks guys!

All in all for it being my first attempt at milling and doing it without the benefit of jig or mill I think it went quite well.

If it looks like I'll get more good logs I'll have to weld up a jig to help keep things more even and get a chainsaw that can handle a longer bar.

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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2019, 10:10:29 AM »
looks like fun and a lot of work.  if you sticker them in the same order and orientation as they came from the log, any twist or wave will compensate and not start multiplying as you go.  you will expect to have some doing freehand.  we with band mills also get some occasional waves ect., and that is how we sticker so a thin spot in one board matches the thick spot left in the next board.  good luck
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2019, 10:24:12 AM »
you do what you gotta do.  around here, most of the soft maple winds up in the land fill.  good job for trying to make the best of it, with what tools you have.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2019, 10:30:45 AM »
Sounds like to me he had no way to move a 12 foot log without paying someone else to do it. We all have to make do with the tools/money we have.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2019, 11:23:40 AM »
+1 on Magicman's comment.  It looks great!   

Woodworking as a hobby is supposed to be fun.  If you had a good time sawing and you got usable material, I say you are very successful!  Keep experimenting, keep it fun and stay safe!
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2019, 11:35:14 AM »
Congratulations!  

Thats how I cut my first board and got hooked on sawing wood.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2019, 11:57:30 AM »
you do what you gotta do.  around here, most of the soft maple winds up in the land fill.  good job for trying to make the best of it, with what tools you have.
Aside from that, I hear wood grows on trees. I'm not convinced, but that's what I hear.

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2019, 12:06:00 PM »
Sounds like to me he had no way to move a 12 foot log without paying someone else to do it. We all have to make do with the tools/money we have.
Nope, I don't have the equip to move large logs and it was in a very nice yard which the owner would not have allowed to be torn up by dragging it out (someone offered that option already before I got there.)  
Would have loved longer lengths but it was all we could do to manipulate what we did do. Turned out to be a good thing as trying to mill down longer logs vertically would have been more interesting.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2019, 07:29:07 PM »
Uh oh, he's got the bug... ;D
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2019, 12:43:52 AM »
You're off to a nice start. You found the bug in those logs. That's just the start. ;)
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2019, 07:16:25 AM »
Where theres a will there's a way, Good job.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2019, 09:54:23 AM »
Uh oh, he's got the bug... ;D
I hear a kiln helps with "bugs"  ;) ;)
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2019, 10:52:55 AM »
 

 
I see your future.... there's an entry level bandsaw mill...and a log arch, and a home made log arch trailer.....


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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2019, 11:07:55 AM »
And a bigger truck, cant hooks, a bigger chainsaw, a solar kiln, a planer/molder.....
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2019, 11:13:23 AM »
And a bigger truck, cant hooks, a bigger chainsaw, a solar kiln, a planer/molder.....
Yep. It never ends. But thats a good thing. 
Some people think that holding the couch down is good hobby. I doubt any of em are members of the FF. 
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2019, 11:35:44 AM »
Uh oh, he's got the bug... ;D
I hear a kiln helps with "bugs"  ;) ;)
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2019, 12:28:43 PM »
I stand buy my early delete post !! what a wast of a 12 straight log...

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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2019, 12:34:40 PM »
Looks like you did well, better than my first attempt is say,   welcome to the fold, keep posting on the progress, there are many worse vices to pickup. 

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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2019, 12:53:56 PM »
It's a 12 step program.  

1) Cut a piece of wood
2) Buy some small equipment
3) Build more equipment
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5) Attend group support meetings in places like Georgia and Michigan where the "cover story" is educational or food based.
6) You suddenly find an interest in chickens.....

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2019, 02:07:32 PM »
I stand buy my early delete post !! what a wast of a 12 straight log...
Why?  It could have been firewood or taken to a landfill and buried.  The OP turned the log into material he plans to use.  
Is it any different than it being milled into 2x 12' long boards then cut to 3' or 4' lengths for a project?  Same difference.

Plus he enjoyed the process and learned something.
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I stand buy my early delete post !! what a wast of a 12 straight log...
Hey logman, I bet you are a great guy.  We are here to support each other and occ. poke a little fun and learn something.  remember when you text or email stuff, folks do not always know if you are joking or not.  I am like you and can hardly stand to see things go to waste.  i have about 20 maple logs in my yard.  i have a 1 tone dually, a 32 foot goose neck, a 277c track loader, and a b 2000 sawmill.  i am very lucky.  it sounds like our new member is just getting started.  Remember Swearwords are not allowed, and this day in age i think we have to be careful what we say.  I may have overstepped my bounds, but i hope this helps you understand.  @logman 219 
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2019, 06:19:44 PM »
Doc, in the spirit of things, are those more of those special Kansas Maple logs?  :D
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« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2019, 06:41:05 PM »
never sure till I post them on the forum.  did you see tree of the day?  i was told it was a "black oak" by the wife of the tree service guy.  what can be more reliable than that.  i almost tagged you when the foresters said it was... a silver maple.  must be the weather and the soil conditions that make all the maples in ks look like an oak.   8) 8) :o :o :o :D :D :D :).  do you still like Ice with your sweet tea? ;)
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2019, 06:49:28 PM »
And a bigger truck, cant hooks, a bigger chainsaw, a solar kiln, a planer/molder.....
Yep. It never ends. But thats a good thing.
Some people think that holding the couch down is good hobby. I doubt any of em are members of the FF.
Btulloh, I resent that generalization! Why just this week, I was able to hold a couch down; It was around 2:45 am on Tuesday, it lasted about 10 minutes- and it was glorious!
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do you still like Ice with your sweet tea?


Proud to say yes.. ;D
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@olcowhand , you make a good point. It is a good and necessary thing at times.   :D

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never mind its not a 2x12 (24 board feet) its a 200 board foot log cut 3-4 feet long to use a chain saw

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"What we have here is failure to communicate." :D
 2x 12' long, I believe was read incorrectly and I can see why.  2" boards random width 12' long is what I intended.

I get it @logman 219 you wanted the log cut into some sort of lumber on a sawmill.  The OP doesn't have a sawmill, he used what tools he had to make something he could use.  I stand by my statement, that's not a waste.  I'm pretty sure the OP wishes he had a sawmill to go about it differently.
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I see your future.... there's an entry level bandsaw mill...and a log arch, and a home made log arch trailer.....
And a bigger truck, cant hooks, a bigger chainsaw, a solar kiln, a planer/molder.....


Heh, I just brought up the idea of a bigger truck to the missus yesterday, she was all excited to try and find one. I hate shopping for vehicles but she loves it. Now to figure out how to pay for it :D
I'm definitely bitten by the bug. Been trying to figure out how to find logs to mill. Found a few in the local ads but people want a lot of money and at the moment I don't know enough I'd want to pay for what may not be a good log. 
I keep seeing a lot of Elm being cut down, is it any good?
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"What we have here is failure to communicate." :D
 2x 12' long, I believe was read incorrectly and I can see why.  2" boards random width 12' long is what I intended.

I get it @logman 219 you wanted the log cut into some sort of lumber on a sawmill.  The OP doesn't have a sawmill, he used what tools he had to make something he could use.  I stand by my statement, that's not a waste.  I'm pretty sure the OP wishes he had a sawmill to go about it differently.
I didn't see the post logman made that was removed but I can guess more or less what it was and I take no offense. If anything I sort of agree with him. I would have preferred to pull the trunk out whole but short of a crane that could lift a 1 ton log from a 60' horizontal run it wasn't going to happen. The homeowner had already had someone who wanted to drag it out so they could mill it full length but this was a very nicely landscaped house and the homeowner wasn't having it. 
It was not my first choice to cut it down but that was the only way I could haul it out. I figure those 3-4' sections weight 4-500lbs each and we were using muscle power and a dolly to do it all. As has been said, I did the best I could with what I have. I wish I had the equipment to have "done it right" but alas, the cost is more than my budget will take. I also live in the city with neighbors on either side of me so I am not sure how I would fit a bandsaw mill and solar kiln in, though I am stretching my brain trying to figure out how to do it  ;D ;D
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« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2019, 11:19:44 AM »
I like red elm(slippery elm) or american elm or any elm.  My key to finding logs was making relationships, and talking to people.  I get some logs from 2 firewood guys I've developed a rapport with.  They'll save out the better saw logs to sell to me.  They have relationships with tree services who need to get rid of logs they take down.  They are more rural, so sometimes there are logs with nails, but not so much that I can't deal with it.   Craigslist is another possibility if you have the ability to load and move logs.  A log arch trailer like Matt Cremona's  on youtube would be very helpful.  I'm planning to outfit one like his soon.  Until then I have to pay to get logs delivered to me.  Another way is just talking to people.  Maybe they will have some trees cut down and will call you to take the logs, or they know somebody...   I was in the ford dealership waiting area, and struck up a conversation with a guy having his truck serviced.  When I brought up milling and logs, he mentioned that he just had a walnut grove bulldozed 4 months ago and the logger never followed through on their deal to pay and take the logs.  I went and looked the next day and struck a deal right there.  I had to buck the logs for 3 days, arrange my firewood guy and his skid steer to come and pile the logs in preparation for moving them, then hire another tree service to come with their log trucks and load and move almost 2 semi loads of walnut to my place.  I milled Walnut for over a year and still have a bout 10 to do,  on that one deal.  You never know...
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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2019, 12:40:07 PM »
'Goodbye city life"  ;D  that dates me a little bit oh well..   I see a  3/4 ton pick up in your future. 

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« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2019, 02:32:20 PM »
And a tape measure with a claw so large you could till the yard with it...unless of course they are all discontinued 
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« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2019, 03:35:42 PM »
Elm is beautiful and in most areas plentiful and most folks do not even want it for firewood.   so a great young mans wood.  it has tough grain and may move while drying, but it can be planed our.  Just gave some to a past eagle scout to make a baby crib.  he gets me good prices on Stihl product.  i gave him oak to build a bed a year ago, but have released him to name the soon to be born baby anything they want.  does not have to be named after me!!!  friends almost bought an 8k dollar table made from an "exotic hardwood".  It was elm.  



 

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« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2019, 06:30:22 PM »
I'm thrilled to hear elm is worth using! I see it being cut down around me all the time but had read that it was no good for anything (ok mostly firewood but my brain kinda carried that over to other uses.)

I grew up hating the Chinese Elm trees cause they have those little seeds that just go everywhere and they were always weeping the sap everywhere and looked nasty. Guess it's time to rid myself of old prejudices.

Local ad has some elm logs for free, most are only a few feet but a few look like they are 4' or a little longer. I am going to go and try to pick it up tomorrow morning unless it's already taken. Then I'll have to weld me up a chainsaw mill jig and maybe some sort of table to take the logs off the ground (I hate bending over or crawling, I'm not in great shape unless pear is a shape  ;D)  

It'd be really awesome to be able to use wood I've sourced, milled and dried to build the furniture in my "Man Cave!"

Until I can afford the 70cc pro saw that'll run the 30"+ bar to mill with, is putting a 24" bar with a semi or full skip chain on my little 50cc saw a reasonable option? My thinking is I will lose 4-8" of bar to the clamping mechanism of the jig so only 16-20" will actually contact the wood. I already have a chisel chain that I could frankenstein into a semi or full comp but want to be sure it's worth the time and effort. Yes I could buy one for not much but I got the tools and time and it'd be good practice on chain repair. 

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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2019, 08:41:16 PM »
Brandon -

Already building equipment. 

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« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2019, 08:46:17 PM »
do not answer that Brandon, it is a trick question and will go on forever, do not get him started.  in fact do not even stare at the thread.  we have lost several valued member to the dreaded chicken theme!  may God help us all!!! :) :) :)
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« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2019, 08:48:23 PM »
Skip the chainsaw and start saving for the band mill.  Find ways to pick up extra money and squirrel it away.  I'd recommend an LT15 Woodmizer, but I'm biased.  Oh, and you're going to need to move to a bigger property, preferrably outside of town.
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« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2019, 08:59:51 PM »
Brandon -

Already building equipment.

How do you feel about chickens? Asking for a friend.  :D

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« Reply #42 on: September 10, 2019, 09:00:51 PM »
do not answer that Brandon, it is a trick question and will go on forever, do not get him started.  in fact do not even stare at the thread.  we have lost several valued member to the dreaded chicken theme!  may God help us all!!! :) :) :)
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« Reply #43 on: September 10, 2019, 09:02:27 PM »
do not answer that Brandon, it is a trick question and will go on forever, do not get him started.  in fact do not even stare at the thread.  we have lost several valued member to the dreaded chicken theme!  may God help us all!!! :) :) :)
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+1 on what Brad said save your money.  By the time you get set up for chainsaw milling, you wouldn't be far from owning a good entry level bandmill.  I went down that very road.  $800-1,000 for a starter power head, plus the bar, plus the ripping chains, chainsaw mill frame etc. etc.  By the time you start to mill your first log you will have spent enough to buy a good manual bandmill. 
Plus do you know how hard on a chainsaw/slow/how much hard work/dirty/frustrating a chainsaw mill really is?  I didn't but learned real quickly.  I have my Alaskan Mill but I won't sell it or give it away, it would be like sharing a bad disease.Your mileage may vary....
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« Reply #44 on: September 10, 2019, 09:03:26 PM »
Skip the chainsaw and start saving for the band mill.  Find ways to pick up extra money and squirrel it away.  I'd recommend an LT15 Woodmizer, but I'm biased.  Oh, and you're going to need to move to a bigger property, preferrably outside of town.
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« Reply #45 on: September 10, 2019, 09:04:19 PM »
do not answer that Brandon, it is a trick question and will go on forever, do not get him started.  in fact do not even stare at the thread.  we have lost several valued member to the dreaded chicken theme!  may God help us all!!! :) :) :)
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Now that's funny... :D :D :D!  
+1 on what Brad said save your money.  By the time you get set up for chainsaw milling, you wouldn't be far from owning a good entry level bandmill.  I went down that very road.  $800-1,000 for a starter power head, plus the bar, plus the ripping chains, chainsaw mill frame etc. etc.  By the time you start to mill your first log you will have spent enough to buy a good manual bandmill.
Plus do you know how hard on a chainsaw/slow/how much hard work/dirty/frustrating a chainsaw mill really is?  I didn't but learned real quickly.  I have my Alaskan Mill but I won't sell it or give it away, it would be like sharing a bad disease.Your mileage may vary....
Ok, sounds like I don't realize the costs of a bandsaw mill... so off to research something I didn't know I needed but now can't live without ;)
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« Reply #46 on: September 10, 2019, 09:06:42 PM »
And you are doing it very well Sir.  It's very easy for someone else to $pend your money.  ;D
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« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2019, 09:07:17 PM »
oh great, he sucked you into his world.  OMG.  Brandon I told you not to stare at the thread.  i tried to be a "beak"on of hope, but you just had to "wing" it,  he always tries to egg people on, feather you like it or not!  @Southside 
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« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2019, 09:13:12 PM »
I bought a Alaskan mill 15 years ago and it is still new in the box.  good place to start, but some small band mill starts at just over 2k., and can be sold and moved up when it makes sense.  for now enjoy your success.  welcome again, and as you can see we like to have fun.
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« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2019, 09:15:36 PM »
I bought a Alaskan mill 15 years ago and it is still new in the box.  good place to start, but some small band mill starts at just over 2k., and can be sold and moved up when it makes sense.  for now enjoy your success.  welcome again, and as you can see we like to have fun.
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« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2019, 09:17:50 PM »
Brandon -

Have you started to drive down the road yet and wonder just what the inside of trees you see in folks yards will yield?  Have you gone to a box store and looked at what they call "lumber" and dragged your poor wife over to show her all the defects and issues with said pile of junk?  

Just trying to diagnose how fast the disease is progressing.   :D

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When your wife has no issue with finding sawdust in your pants pockets on a regular basis you will know that you have surpassed the contagious stage and the disease has spread, there is no hope for a cure at that point.  
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« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2019, 09:24:23 PM »
Brandon -

Have you started to drive down the road yet and wonder just what the inside of trees you see in folks yards will yield?  Have you gone to a box store and looked at what they call "lumber" and dragged your poor wife over to show her all the defects and issues with said pile of junk?  

Just trying to diagnose how fast the disease is progressing.   :D
Haha not quite but I have driven down the road and looked at trees and tried to figure out how to safely fell them so I could mill them too.
My wife already refuses to go to the box stores with me before this new interest.
If I'm suddenly wondering if I could build the bandsaw mill myself... is that an indication the disease has already progressed or is it another disease... some new form of  mad CHICKEN disease perhaps?  ;)
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Edit:

When your wife has no issue with finding sawdust in your pants pockets on a regular basis you will know that you have surpassed the contagious stage and the disease has spread, there is no hope for a cure at that point.  
I do my own laundry to try and prevent discovery  ;D ;D
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« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2019, 09:29:14 PM »
@Southside, yesterday it was my wife who called me over to point out the defects in the lumber in the home improvement store's stock.  She said "We make better lumber than that!"  OMG! She has a sawdust habit TOO!!! :D :D :D
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« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2019, 09:31:26 PM »
That's he kiss of death right there. But you have been done for a long time now.
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« Reply #55 on: September 10, 2019, 09:33:44 PM »
Yup - I walk in tonight after shutting down the mill and finishing moving cows and there is a big, old, castle nut on the kitchen table - and NO I did not leave it there.  I asked my wife what was up with it and her response - "I found it in my purse, not sure what it was doing there and figured you would want it", normal thing for her to walk around with...   8)
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« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2019, 10:46:55 PM »
@southside, it has been stated on the forum literally without exaggeration probably over a thousand times,  "your poor wife"!!!  the zombie sawdust a-pocko-lips crisis.  @Old Greenhorn last time I ate grits, we had a 4.2 earthquake centered 2 miles from our home!!!
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« Reply #57 on: September 10, 2019, 10:48:25 PM »
You mean I'm not the only one hiding sawdust by doing his own laundry in secret. Had it in my sock the other day used the saw and wore the wrong boots, took my one shoe off in the house hopped on one foot out the door to shake em off out in the grass. Covered my tracks quick with a broom they went downstairs in my wash machine.

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« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2019, 08:20:49 AM »
You mean I'm not the only one hiding sawdust by doing his own laundry in secret. Had it in my sock the other day used the saw and wore the wrong boots, took my one shoe off in the house hopped on one foot out the door to shake em off out in the grass. Covered my tracks quick with a broom they went downstairs in my wash machine.
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« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2019, 08:29:22 AM »
Maybe your wife can join the @Southside spouse support group.!!! :o :o :o :) :) :) ;)  @ManjiSann 
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« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2019, 10:28:15 AM »
oh great, he sucked you into his world.  OMG.  Brandon I told you not to stare at the thread.  i tried to be a "beak"on of hope, but you just had to "wing" it,  he always tries to egg people on, feather you like it or not!  @Southside
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« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2019, 09:35:08 AM »
So much fowl language in this thread...  :) :)

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« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2019, 03:10:26 PM »
See there you justified your hobby, you are now going to have to build a chicken coop for this chicken project. . Your kids can join 4H and show chickens, but you need to obtain mill and process this wood so this can all happen. It can be part of a she shed out back. Everybody in the house wins, you get your stuff, plus chickens, yep win win deal there.  8)

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« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2019, 09:39:30 PM »
Not every chicken is a "chicken".


 
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« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2019, 01:26:32 AM »
I suggested moving because your city neighbors will not like the combustion engine of the mill.  If you have to stay there, then maybe get an electric mill, much quieter.  I'm switching to electric soon.  I mill inside, so exhaust fumes aren't very desirable.  Less noise is an added bonus.
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« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2019, 08:55:32 AM »
I suggested moving because your city neighbors will not like the combustion engine of the mill.  If you have to stay there, then maybe get an electric mill, much quieter.  I'm switching to electric soon.  I mill inside, so exhaust fumes aren't very desirable.  Less noise is an added bonus.
I've wondered about doing an electric motor. Do you happen to know of a single phase 220 motor that will put out enough horse power to run a bandsaw? For that matter, what is the needed HP?  I don't expect to be doing logs over 24" dia so I'll build the mill to handle 30" as a safety margin. I'll have to look up some of the FF build threads and read up.
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« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2019, 09:30:53 AM »
I did a lot of projects on the patios and sidewalks of my apartments going through school.  I always had a skill saw and a router ect.  If you are renting, you may have to adapt to a dryer plug or something, and if you want to mill that wide, will pull a lot of amps, and maybe need 3 phase.  I have read a conversion from gas to electric but do not claim to be an expert so will leave that to others.  I applaud and can remember/relate to your plight.  your situation will most likely require some patience.  I was young once too! 8).  I watched my sawmill for 15 years before I got one.  Good luck with all you do, Just showing up and enthusiasm is a big part of success in life.  you can learn a lot by "making do"  and will appreciate what you attain later even MORE.  I have apologized to my son a few times for his sad situation of being a doctors kid.  he did not have the privilege of doing without as much as most of his friend, and therefore they are better able to do for themselves.  IMHO.
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« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2019, 10:01:15 AM »
Hello Brandon, we're neighbors.  I live in West Valley City in the winter time.  I'm enjoying your thread.
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« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2019, 04:31:45 PM »
I did a lot of projects on the patios and sidewalks of my apartments going through school.  I always had a skill saw and a router ect.  If you are renting, you may have to adapt to a dryer plug or something, and if you want to mill that wide, will pull a lot of amps, and maybe need 3 phase.  I have read a conversion from gas to electric but do not claim to be an expert so will leave that to others.  I applaud and can remember/relate to your plight.  your situation will most likely require some patience.  I was young once too! 8).  I watched my sawmill for 15 years before I got one.  Good luck with all you do, Just showing up and enthusiasm is a big part of success in like.  you can learn a lot by "making do"  and will appreciate what you attain later even.  I have apologized to my son a few times for his sad situation of being a doctors kid.  he did not have the privilege of doing without as much as most of his friend, and therefore they are better able to do for themselves.  IMHO.
We own our house so the renting part isn't an issue. The 3 phase part is, unless I buy/build a converter. I'll have to look into all that building a mill will require. I'm handy with electrical (wired my basement including pulling the sub panel and have passed code inspection so I guess I know what I'm doing  ;)) and while I wouldn't classify myself as a welder I can get two pieces of metal to stick and stay together.
My biggest plight is a lack of patience  :D
I agree with learning to make do. Growing up we always had food to eat but not much more so I learned to work for what I want or do without. I think that's also where the "If I make it myself it'll be cheaper" mentality came from. While it's frustrating to have to wait for what I want or do without, I really don't have any complaints about my life. I'm very fortunate to have the skills and abilities I do. 
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« Reply #69 on: September 13, 2019, 04:44:55 PM »
Hello Brandon, we're neighbors.  I live in West Valley City in the winter time.  I'm enjoying your thread.
Hey Dakota, glad you're enjoying the thread!
I'm glad to find there's other Utah FF members, was starting to wonder if I was the only one!
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« Reply #70 on: September 13, 2019, 11:13:47 PM »
 "I have apologized to my son a few times for his sad situation of being a doctors kid.  he did not have the privilege of doing without as much as most of his friend, and therefore they are better able to do for themselves.  IMHO."

I've read a lot of your contributions here on this forum and you stand out as a good man! Your son will take what you are and do with it as he chooses. It all builds a base 
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« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2019, 09:32:34 AM »
I am working today, day 3 of 4.  we have the state fair going on past 8 days, always another 10% of patients and we are very busy.  We normally have 2 PAs and one just called in sick.  It is only a 12 hours shift so will power through.  My strength and spirit is increased by the support and kind words!  thanks gents.
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« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2019, 10:07:49 PM »
I am working today, day 3 of 4.  we have the state fair going on past 8 days, always another 10% of patients and we are very busy.  We normally have 2 PAs and one just called in sick.  It is only a 12 hours shift so will power through.  My strength and spirit is increased by the support and kind words!  thanks gents.
Only a 12 hour shift? I've worked 5-12's before, it's not pleasant and I just had to sit in front of a computer and think. Doc you are a superhero!
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« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2019, 10:11:46 PM »
Today was a bit of a bummer, several things fell through. I decided I needed some Sawdust Therapy:



Not my best free hand milling job but I felt better after being covered in sawdust  8) 8)

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« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2019, 10:11:02 AM »
@ManjiSann , All I know is Woodmizer LT15 is available in electric.  It's a 220V 10ph, single phase.  I've heard it works well, plenty of power.  I have an LT15 with a 19HP gas Kohler engine now.  The HP ratings between electric and gas aren't comparable apples to apples apparently. The 10hp electric should have as much cutting ability as my gas engine from what I've heard.
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