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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2005, 03:39:25 PM »
Oh yeah I forgot that you are in rugged country s.b.  , I can see where the winch would be a needed thing .  Nothing funner than getting down deep in the woods and hookin on to a log and planning on what to make from it . Endless possibilities aint it , isnt it ! ;D
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2005, 05:55:16 PM »
FDH--- I had planned on having hooks or slots on the top edge of the "skidderplate" that the wooden mock up represents and a stub on top of that would enable it to be raised by the cylinder.Kind of like the thing that Bitternut has on his three pt hitch. (see Log Arch #3)
I do see that having too much weight behind the axle is asking for trouble.I had hoped that the plow blade and forward engine would be enough to conteract the weight of the hitch.

I wasn't very clear that this is for a Pre Commercial Thinning. Most of the logs will only be around 5" and would usually be left on the ground but I can use them to make corduroy and fences and a few should be big enough to use for a small log building.

Thanks for your observations, everyone. ;D Keep 'em comin' ;D
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2005, 06:50:01 PM »

  Joan, I'm sure you have a better idea than I. Your postings are always well thought out. I admire that you have a firm grasp on how things are to be done in the timber. Just be careful. Power can getcha, real quick.  Keep us updated. ;) ;D
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2005, 08:18:14 PM »
Try this idea. Use the winch with high mount to lift the log but have a second chain from log to do the pulling from a low pull point. This is how I pull rather large logs with my 20 horse 4 WD tractor. I have a 3 point log arch to lift the log but if it is heavy and I do not use a 2nd chain to pull from down low all I do is drive out from under the load and that is a wheelie the dangerous way. I built an extra heavy front end weight (for the tractor size) of about 300# but still need the low pull point. With it I can pull a tree length 24" soft maple and lift the lead end. I do need and have logging chains on the rears and conventional cleated chains on the fronts but this is the equipment I have and it works.
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2005, 08:29:35 PM »

Sprucebunny there is no such thing as logs too small because I think you will find something to make out of 5 inch or 8 inch logs and ride in comfort to and from the woods in your very cool machine . Here is what small logs can make , anyone know what I am making here ? Yes thats right these are log dog houses . Doggy Castles !  Small logs make more money than big logs if you got ideas and I believe with all your ideas that you are sitting on a gold mine of wonderful little logs .  
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2005, 08:45:54 PM »
Hey...that's neat, UNCLEBUCK ;D

Did you hand peel them or do you have a power tool of some sort ?

I'm gonna make some of those. My favorite dog... not my own... is scared of stuff and always looking for things to hide in and under. He could have one of those indoors and the roof could be flat and a table !!!!
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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2005, 08:55:49 PM »
  :D  Yeah I just peel them by hand with a sharp old sye blade , I still dont know how to spell sye ,psye ? sigh ?  :D   I can fill a pickup box with these and peel in the spring when things start melting. Just thought another idea wouldnt hurt and its a fun project , could even go 2 story with dog on 1st floor and cat on 2nd floor . If I had a machine like that I would be afraid to get a scratch on it .
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2005, 09:03:49 PM »
I cant help but look at your cool machine and if I had small logs to haul maybe a removeable stake bed like a pickup wouldnt do the trick because smaller logs can be pivoted or tumbled on or slid on and 4 feet could hang off the back end once in awhile. Just a thought.  :P
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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2005, 03:03:50 AM »
sprucebunny how is your project coming along ? I am curious to see what you end up with on the back of your cool machine . I see the weather channel shows heavy rain and snow out your way but I suppose you can pull through anything with that . Probably got wipers and heated seat and steering wheel too ?  Its 71 degrees in minnesota tomorrow "monday" .  :P
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2005, 06:44:27 PM »
hey, UNCLEBUCK....yah...we had some rain and a little flooding...normal spring stuff. Ground is too soft to mess around in the woods right now ...probably can't work out there for a few weeks but there has been some progress with the cat.
 It isn't all that shiny and wonderful being that it's 30 years old and it definately doesn't have heated seats or even a steering wheel. ;D  It rides rough on packed trails and is noisy. At least it's finally running good : When I got it, it had the wrong spark plugs in it and the choke was bent inside and not working right.Purrs like a kitten now. :D
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A very nice friend visited this weekend and we ( well... mostly he ) got a trailer hitch welded on and also some brackets to mount the winch over the trailer hitch. This picture shows the winch. The A frame is sitting on the rails and the whole winch, fairlead and the plate they are mounted on can be bolted in front of the frame where the hydraulic hose ends are laying. Still some drilling to be done to get that together.


Just had to see how it would do towing a trailer ;D


Don't know how much of a load it will haul but the cat needs new drive sprockets and if it doesn't do well towing the loaded trailer because of lack of power I could get slightly smaller sprockets. If it doesn't do well because of weight, I have an off road trailer thats lots smaller and dumps.
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2005, 08:46:09 PM »
How about a headache rack of 1 x 1.5 x 12 guage protecting the back of the cab and extending out (angled backwards in case you snag something)  a few inches beyond the cab so a stray hook or broken cable does not come through the back of the cab windows, cab, or side windows and kills you?
 
How about a second attachment point for a hook on both sides of the vehicle towards the middle of the truck so you can double pull from the back with a snatch block and side or even front pull to get the vehicle out of a stuck situation?

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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2005, 10:39:20 PM »
sprucebunny youre coming along great there , looks like beautiful country out there , I wouldnt have the patience to get a winch on there like you did . Looks like a hoot to drive ,kind of like a dozer . Well thanks for the pics and dont hit a moose with that thing . Good Luck Pullin !
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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2005, 12:14:36 AM »
  I'm happy to see that it's working fine ... ;) ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2005, 08:58:56 PM »
For those obsessed with track vehicals, I have guy in Elizabeth Pa. with two 1960's Army track vehicals that were used as "platforms"  for small artillery rockets. They have 4 clyinder Ford engines. They are geared a little high. They really go fast and the tracks are padded for road us but when he toke me for a ride my head was spinning with the possibilities. One has a full lenth roll cage and the other a smaller roll cage. As I recall he wanted $4,000 each. They were quite cool but didn't turn on a dime for woods work. Reid
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2005, 07:13:35 AM »
Finally have the winch mounted and a workable mock-up of the skid-plate done. I'm going to get an arch to keep the far end of the logs off the ground. 4-5 10" spruce per load is all I'm hoping for and a few poles thrown on the back of the cat. I don't imagine the weight of the logs will exceed the cat's weight rating of about 1000# It won't be very hard to add some weight to the front blade if I need too.






In it's final ( metal ;D ) form, I hope to have the plate and the weight a littler higher and also closer to the body.

There is no emergency brake on this thing and one of the main purposes of this plate is to anchor the cat when using the winch.
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« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2005, 10:41:05 PM »
I got a bunch of painted up parts now.


It's not quite as colorful as Jeff's drag saw. ;D
Not-quite-USFS-green and industrial yellow .......

I have a little work to do to the frame of the cat to make it survive the extra forces . And then I'll be ready for the big test :D

Got to look around the neighborhood for a test log. ;D
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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2005, 09:55:54 AM »
looking good joan make a video when you get it running  8) 8) 8)
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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2005, 06:53:34 PM »
No video today, Gene :D
But I did get it together and have a little 'yank' at something ;D
I really need to find a smaller log :D This was closest. It's about 40" thick and 16' long ..... I dragged it a couple inches ;D


My contraption seems like it will work. I've had fun and learned alot building it. I will post a pic later in the summer when I find the right size log ::)       

There must be a beat up truck in my yard that I could pick up one end of ....... ???
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« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2005, 07:05:32 PM »
  Joan that is just amazing what you did , It looks really good , congratulation on a job very well done ...  8) 8) 8)
 I have logs here that would be the wright size for you to try this thing out ... If a little drive here would not bother you ..  ;D
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Re: Building a tracked skidder
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2005, 07:08:24 PM »
Boys, that's quite a stick of wood sprucebunny. Was it left after the loggers pulled out of the property? Looks like an even bigger sucker in the back ground. Hook onto that bugger for a drag.  ;D

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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