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Re: Timber Harvest Methods & Equipment
« Reply #3600 on: January 17, 2019, 06:05:38 PM »
Nice beech. All the beech I have that size I can run my arm up into.
I was cutting some about that size and I was cutting my notch. Went to the backside and started cutting.All at once something started to come of of the tree as a liquid.  :o  I shut the saw off,thinking my saw has sprung a leak. ::) I never had that happen. There was a limb that had broke off and that was water in the hollow part of the tree.
All the beech I have have bumps all over it,caused by cankers, beech bark disease.
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« Reply #3601 on: January 17, 2019, 06:58:26 PM »
Beech makes excellent firewood.  
Under bark there's boards and beams, somewhere in between.
Cuttin' while its green, through a steady sawdust stream.
I'm chasing the sawdust dream.

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« Reply #3602 on: January 17, 2019, 07:09:19 PM »
Yes it does. That's what I was doing with it. I was on my Father's land,and we hauled it out on a trailer. Had to load it 4 foot. No way some of that beech was going to be loaded on a trailer. I went into the woods with 3-4 iron wedges and a sledge hammer. Sometimes I would have all 3 wedges buried into that wood. I finally did convince him to haul it out in longer lengths.
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« Reply #3603 on: January 18, 2019, 07:45:20 AM »
Big beech down here tends to be hollow.  The hardwood cruisers beat it with a cruising stick to listen and hear if it is hollow.  At least the old hardwood cruisers did.  

Not sure if the Millennials beat on beech :).
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« Reply #3604 on: January 18, 2019, 06:58:40 PM »
I'm sure not a "Millennial", but I beat on the beeches (all second growth) that are in my wood. Most all of them are hollow, and those Beeches are dangerous to fell......
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« Reply #3605 on: January 19, 2019, 12:25:56 PM »
They are also good to leave some as den, snag, cavity, and mast trees for wildlife. 

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« Reply #3606 on: January 19, 2019, 01:36:14 PM »
Theres a 400 acre lease a short hike behind me that the neighbors and i all hunt.  Just one hollar past my buddies ridgetop stands is a steep creek cut bank about 30feet tall with bedding above it and a MONSTER beach tree in the bottom that theyve not noticed.  The wall funnels deer into a narrow tract to get down to the tree and i cant wait to set up over there to drag out the bucks my pals drool over. Just to be a turd.   ;D
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« Reply #3607 on: January 20, 2019, 07:38:54 PM »
 
A Timber Harvester is recommended for safety and efficiency to produce a good product mix in the salvage of wind blown timber. A Timberjack harvester is being used in this January 2019 cleanup after an August 2018 wind storm.
 
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« Reply #3608 on: January 20, 2019, 08:25:00 PM »
doesn't look like you got much snow 

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« Reply #3609 on: January 20, 2019, 08:30:44 PM »
No, not much snow at all yet this winter. Had about 6 inches at the most, but rains in between has decreased that. Cold weather now. Was below zero all day today and 8 below now. Snowmobilers and cross country skiers are hurting.
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« Reply #3610 on: January 20, 2019, 08:57:54 PM »
we got about 10in out of the storm last night thats the most we have had got some back in November but that got rained away to late in the year for this crap im ready for spring 

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« Reply #3611 on: January 20, 2019, 09:54:36 PM »
Weve had like 1/4" of snow and thats plenty for me.  Other than tracking deer it serves me no purpose.
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« Reply #3612 on: January 20, 2019, 10:44:31 PM »
 
Picture taken just last Friday when we had our 6 inches of snow so far. More unsightly blow down of plantation red pine on National Forest land along the heavily traveled road to the Caberfae Ski Area. There is still a lot of patch work timber salvage work to be done on private and public lands in the area.
 

 
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« Reply #3613 on: January 21, 2019, 07:41:18 AM »
Ron isnt that a sighn the row pine is being thinned to much to early. I see a lot of thin pin that takes it hard in bad weather in our area. Mid/northern mi like u. Its to bad a lot of dollars lost due to shake.

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« Reply #3614 on: January 21, 2019, 08:49:00 AM »
Some storms, it doesn't matter. We had a big storm in 2012, it didn't matter how well stocked a site was- it all got flattened.
Too many irons in the fire

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« Reply #3615 on: January 21, 2019, 09:32:29 AM »
Ron isnt that a sighn the row pine is being thinned to much to early. I see a lot of thin pin that takes it hard in bad weather in our area. Mid/northern mi like u. Its to bad a lot of dollars lost due to shake.
I believe it is now known that shake is really bacterial in nature.  I am curious about the pine thinning strategy, in the south they would have been thinned a long time ago.  Was it just planted too densely to begin with?
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« Reply #3616 on: January 21, 2019, 09:41:30 AM »
On Forest Service land, at least up here, its almost a given that pine plantations are not thinned early enough. The result is tall, spindly trees that dont hold up well to storms when they are thinned. Thinning early (25-30 years old for red pine) and then consistently will yield larger pine that are more wind firm. 

As bartender points out, it doesnt matter how wind firm the trees are in some storms. Its all coming down.

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« Reply #3617 on: January 21, 2019, 02:58:36 PM »
One sign of an over thinned stand is when they are all bent over instead of broken.
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« Reply #3618 on: January 21, 2019, 05:03:32 PM »
 I understand there is some storms and it doesnt matter.  And I agree theyre not thinned soon enough resulting in over thinning latter because theyre not wind strong causing them to blow over in a slightly above average storm. Just my observation these days it seems I see a lot of bent up or broken red pine.

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« Reply #3619 on: January 21, 2019, 08:13:57 PM »
These red pine stands had been recently marked for their second commercial thinning, but they were blown down by the heavy August 2018 storm before they could be harvested. Now they are a patch work of salvage operations with a years work or more of clean up ahead.
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