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Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« on: October 17, 2005, 03:30:41 PM »
I have purchased a B-20 and have the opportunity to get a talon edger for a little extra cabbage.  I will start cutting more with the new mill and hope to expand my fledgling business.  I am cutting almost everything barn wood decking, and grade for my own stash.  I may start cutting palet wood for a small circle mill operation.  The only problem is the engine is missing from the edger.  What is a reasonable $$ for a Talon edger-a few years old, good shape with no mojo?  The engine will probably run a grand or so.
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2005, 04:43:42 PM »
When youre sawing every day and have a couple of people working the mill,  an edger is probably a better investment than a bigger, more productive mill.  One person can be doing the edging while you keep on sawing.  But if youre sawing alone on a small mill,  then an edger wont bring much to the party.

I dont have a guess as to the value of a Talon edger with out power.  Itd depend on the overall condition.  If you are sawing stationary and can use an electric motor vs. gas engine,  then thatd be the Id go with an electric motor. Probably take at least 10hp 15hp would be better.

Im sure someone at TimberKing could give you some guidelines as to what a used unit would be worth and how much itd take to get this one back up and working.
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2005, 07:42:11 PM »
I agree with Bib.  I bought a used woodmizer edger on ebay (180 hrs  8) )  I've only put about 25 hrs on it so far, but it's been a real productive 25 hrs.

I usually have either my dad or brother in law helping me saw, so with 2 people, the edger really increases production.  You find yourself sawing a bit differently knowing you don't have to put the boards back on the mill to edge them.  I was heavily weighing going to a bigger super hydraulic mill, but I think this was a better next step.

You can still use it yourself, just much easier to edge as you go.  If I'm by myself. I make a pile to edge at the end of the day.

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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2005, 07:57:39 PM »
We do use the edger when just one person is sawing.  Just that there is not a lot of production increase like there is with two or more people working the operation. 

When just Mary or I are sawing alone,  well edge after every log if there is more than a couple of flitches.  If there is only one or two,  well saw another log, maybe two, before edging. We just dont want them to pile up.

There are a number of little tricks to edging on the mill that make the job easier and faster.  But thats another topic.  :P
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2005, 08:14:32 PM »
I paid just under 3 grand for an old talon edger without power.  Found an old kubota 20 HP engine to power it for $500.  I would be happier with a brand new Baker edger, but I could afford this one!! 
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2005, 08:47:22 PM »

  If you have help they will pay for themselves.  My edger added another 200 to 300 bdft a day and saved a blade.  But that is when I had help.  Solo it would not have paid for it's self.   When I get to where I can have 3ph power I am going to change it over to a 15hp electric motor.  Mine is mobile now and I take it on the road for large jobs as it does save time and blades.
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2005, 10:29:49 PM »
That is something else you have to consider.  So far, I haven't taken the edger off site, except for 1 large job 4000 bdft that was just down the road. 

For a 1000 bdft or so, I can still accomplish it without the edger and it is another piece of equipment to haul AND run at $3.00 a gallon. >:( >:(

While it can be used solo, I wouldn't buy one for that purpose. In fact, the reason I got this one with LOW hrs is the guy was solo and he said it just didn't pay for him.  It was just as easy to edge on his WM super.

I've heard the argument at a few shows.  What is better for production?  Another helper, an edger, or a bigger mill?  And in what order?  Talk about another thread!!! :o :o

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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2005, 10:40:02 PM »
But if youre sawing alone on a small mill,  then an edger wont bring much to the party.


Plus another machine to feed and maintain.  I bought a Corley...works well with two people but I am a one man band for couple of reasons.  It hasnt ran for a few years.
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2005, 08:40:16 PM »
   Once again, I'm the odd man out,I work by myself,and love my edger. I HATE EDGING ON THE MILL. Most times,I'll edgeup a coupla times a day,feed one in ,stack one while it's sawing,feed - stack till I'm done.
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2005, 11:36:55 PM »
Couldn't imagine being without one.  Edging on the mill is a pain in the butt
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2005, 12:02:58 PM »
Up here in Northern B.C., we cut mainly softwoods which means slower feed rates....usually. When Im working alone, I can get the cut underway, and while thats happenin, I edge a board on the edger.   For instance, if you are using a walk along type Woodmizer, set the edger perpendicular to the mill about midway on the sawdust side. After you finish the cut leave the flitch where it is untill you finish giggin back. Before you start your next cut, spin the just cut flitch so it is perpendicular to the log, and , hopefully pointing diredtly at the edger infeed table. Start your next cut, and quickly edge the flitch while the saw is on "autopilot". Repeat untill you are so tired that you have to go home and sharpen blades :D :D :D :D
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Re: Edgers...Do they pay to have?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2005, 02:16:10 PM »
I went ahead and bought the danG thing.  I may have opened Pandora's box though.  I was told by a local circle miller a guy will deliver logs to my place for me to saw and pick up the lumber later.  This edger may get a work out soon. :D
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