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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2006, 04:07:31 PM »
I've also heard that about chewing on tree sap.  Thenative americans are also inventors of maple syrup and candy.

In NY the name of our most famous mountains and state park means Adirondack  'bark eater'.  An insult the mohawks gave to their enemies.  This is an insult because  it meant they were poor hunters or had bad luck, and had to resort to eating tree bark to make it through winter.
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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2006, 04:23:57 PM »
People chewed it here to, my grandfather said they always chewed it (spruce gum) when he was young. I've chewed it a couple times, bitter stuff though. ;D

The early explorers had to eat stewed tree bark, or the broth of it from white cedar to prevent scurvy. They learnt it from the natives or they would have all perished.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2006, 05:40:28 PM »
I have been eating tree bark all winter for my lunch while cutting logs... I am trying to keep expenses low to make up for the high cost of my fuel and the low price paid for the logs... :D :D


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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2006, 05:57:52 PM »
woodhog, I don't know how you cut wood at those prices. Is the wood free? ;D

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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2006, 08:35:21 PM »
I would think the settlers ate berries to get their vitimin c  ??? pemmican  is sold as commercial  beef jerky now but I know it got its beginnings somewheres else and is still made in its 'natura'l form by some.  I'm sure the native americans also shared this with the pioneers.
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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #25 on: February 25, 2006, 11:33:46 PM »
Love to hear the stories of North American History.  Keep em coming.

Another thing I love to read from time to time are the native legends of Nanabush. :D  My favorite is how the crow turned black :o

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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2006, 07:21:34 AM »
Hard to find berries in the dead of winter and in the summer it usually entails finding a disturbed area where they can grow back, like forest fire ground. I suppose if they found enough high bush cranberry or squash berry (about the same) they would be ok in winter. It's recorded in journals that they ate the bark or broth there of white cedar for scurvy. It's called the tree of life (Arbor Vitae). ;)

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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2006, 08:45:02 AM »
  The setlers where stranded and all dying of scurvy when the algonguins found them ... nursed them back with the cedar potion , and fatened them up with beaver and deer and more then likely an early form of grits . . I'll dig up that bit of history I know I have it here somewheres .
   
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« Reply #28 on: February 26, 2006, 10:41:10 AM »
I'm not pokin fun at Isawlogs, but i like the way he tells history. ;D

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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2006, 10:54:31 PM »
If they would have been around here they would have been able to find all kinds of rosehip berries in the bush.  Rosehips are very high in Vitamin C.
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« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2006, 12:24:43 AM »
How did this post go from windstorm >>>>> food    :D :D :D
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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2006, 06:38:43 AM »
High bush cranberry is high in V-C and also the natives stewed the bark for ASA, the main ingredient in aspirin.

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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2006, 08:59:34 AM »
I ate some high bush cranberries before, I think   :D  they didn't make me sick anyways  :-[ ::)
 
I was readin some stuff about white pine, and found out it has pretty high vitamin C and A.  I also read that when they weren't starving, bark soup is what they fed to their dogs.


Ever heard of candied white pine tips?  Apparently before they get too hard you can boil them and cover them with a sugar syrup and roll em in sugar.

Another one,   one oz of finely chopped white pine needles with I think 6 oz boiling water poured over them   blech   There are probably other ingredients I forgot to mention.   ::)
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Re: Cleaning up after a big wind
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2006, 10:07:28 AM »
Well the thing about the cranberries or squash berries you can find them in winter. Hard to pick raspberry, strawberry or blueberry up here on the ice caps. ;D Around here on lowlands with shade intolerant hardwoods like aspen and birch stands, the cranberries grow in under them like crazy in some places. Other places it's wild raisen in under them, but they don't last the winter. Both Viburnums though. On dryer sites is raspberry canes or beaked hazel, or both in under there.

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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2006, 10:22:52 AM »
The 'cranberries' I ate were on a little shrub about 18" high, and was growin on the edge of a stream.  It was in november, and they were pretty dry in the middle.  I only ate a handfull, and they were kinda bitter. 

I love pickin berries, one time I found some high bush blueberries at a campground about an hr south of me.  I wasn't sure what they were until I tasted some because I didn't know blueberries could grow that tall  :D  I filled my hat a few times and the 'tree' was still loaded, and the ones near the top were out of reach.

Also so a big kitty track in the mud down there, and last summer I heard about and saw a mountain lion caught on a trail camera from that same area.  I think there are more in NY than people would think.

I love reading those old hunting reports of the guys shooting 100 'catamounts' 200 bears and 500 deer in a season  ::)
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2006, 10:37:17 AM »
Don't know if there are red huckle berries down there. They along with bog cranberries and blueberries are vacciniums. We don't have huckleberries up here, but they were all over the west coast were I worked, some of them never even dropped their leaves on the Charlottes. On the coastal mainland they were terrible thick in places. Used to see hummingbirds at them in April for the nectar. I never did see a bumble bee out there.

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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