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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2002, 08:14:57 PM »
"Holy Mackeral Andy!", What a pine tree.
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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2002, 08:32:36 PM »
Would that be one of them "Ponderosa Pine's" ???
  I have heard that some of the Heart Pine we are looking for, would measure 10 feet across. That's hard to believe. :o
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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2002, 12:40:42 AM »
Looks like Ponderosa to me.   Back when loging was still within the law in northern Arizona you could see a log truck with 2 logs like that for a load once a week or so at a mill.   I never loged lumber down ther but my Dad and I cut 16 cords of firewood from a big old Alligatog Juniper neer Camp Wood Arizona so I do rember some BIG trees.
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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2002, 12:41:03 PM »
http://fpc.dos.state.fl.us/commerce/c027531.jpg suwanee
http://fpc.dos.state.fl.us/reference/rc00875.jpg  tallahassee
http://fpc.dos.state.fl.us/reference/rc02346.jpg  wekiva river
http://fpc.dos.state.fl.us/reference/rc04997.jpg  3000 years

deadheader here are some logs that may not have made it out of the suwanee river.


Here is a wealth of photos. I tried to send several but they were too big..

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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2002, 05:15:47 PM »
Allright. Thanks for posting those URL's. The Wekiva River is off limits. Too scenic ????  You can actually see the logs laying on the bottom.  Harold
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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2002, 06:26:05 PM »
I guess they saved the little ones for the chainsaws...

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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2002, 06:29:31 PM »
Many Many old Michigan Lumbering and Logging Photos.

http://www.michiganepic.org/lumbering/photoarchive/archive1/index.htm
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« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2002, 07:05:25 PM »
Did you notice the cord on the two man chainsaw?  My neighbor has an old Stihl two man electric chain saw.  Wonder what kind of generator they had and how they packed it around.

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« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2002, 08:34:30 PM »
Timber Cruisers have lunch in the forest. Michigan's Eastern U.P. Winter 1963.  



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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2002, 01:53:04 PM »
Aspen Bolts to be sawn into fish box material for commercial fishermen. St. Ignace, Michigan. May 1964.




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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2002, 01:57:03 PM »
I live along Pine Creek in North Central PA. The lumber industry has a long history around here. I've always found it to be fascinating.

About 30 years ago, Thomas Taber put together SUNSET ALONG SUSQUEHANNA WATERS. These are from that book.


These guys are running a log skid.


This is a slashdam that was used to wash logs down stream in an artificial flood. I know a place on Pine Creek where there are still timbers from a splashdam that can be seen when the water is really low. The only trace of the town that used to sit next to the dam is a small cemetary.



After a splash, the logs would have to be followed downstream to clear jams. This was often done during snowmelt.

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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2002, 02:07:57 PM »
When floating logs down the Susquehanna got more organized, the susquehanna boom was built near Williamsport, PA. It was more than 7 miles long. It had a shear boom to let rafts through but it grabbed all of the lose logs. It could hold 300,000,000 boardfeet. Every log was sorted and delivered to the proper mill in Williamsport. Initially, the charge was $1/mbf. Millionaires were made from this "arrangement" but not everybody was happy.



The boom ran from 1862 to 1909. There's a lot more to the story but, basicly, rails ended up doing the hauling.

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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2002, 02:13:48 PM »

This is the Susquehanna boom in operation. Those rock piers are still in the river.

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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2002, 05:10:06 AM »
Here is a the first of several video clips from the tape that Paul_H sent to me. A logging train . Maybe he can comment further on each clip.

Logging Train
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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2002, 09:15:06 AM »
Jeff,
I will try to phone Pat Conway today,to refresh my memory on the video.(They were Pat's old 8mm home movies)It was tranfered to VHS in 1989.
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Re: Historic Logging and Milling Photos
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2002, 06:10:42 PM »
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If you look in the backrground of your first picture, you can see how they used to skid those big logs out by horsepower.  There is a really nifty skid trail consisting of split rails.  They used to grease those up so that horses could skid them to a landing.  Then loaded onto a railcar.  It also seems that they used to use the drainage areas ... ie the streams.

Williamsport, PA was the lumber capital of the world in 1850.  My, how times have changed.  They used to have mills that produced 250 MMbf of lumber per year.  30 Mbf/day was the norm for edging strrips that were turned into kindling for the New York City markets.  Most modern mills in our area don't produce that much.

I sit back in awe to see what they used to do 100 years ago as compared to what we can do with our "modernaization".   Our mills are smaller, and where we can log is limited by mechanics.  I used to mark timber to an area where guys could drag a winch line to.  Then I would go up slope another 100 yds. and find a charcoal flat.

One thing to keep in mind that the best production for a shift was set in New Hampshire around 1910 (I believe).  Over 100 Mbf in a shift (12 hrs).
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2002, 08:27:35 PM »
If you happen to be travelling near Coudersport, Pa on Rt.6. Make time to stop at the Pa. Lumbermans Museum.  They have lots of old photos and displays of the way of life in the turn of the century logging camps. They also have a working vintage circle mill used for demostrations. Well worth the trip.
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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2002, 10:54:38 PM »
This picture hangs in our living room.


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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2002, 05:48:39 AM »
Loading an old log truck

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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2002, 02:30:47 PM »
Loading Jack Pine Pulpwood. Michigan's Eastern U.P.; Spring 1963.

Note loader operator and deck hand needed to control the pulpwood bunch for straight decking on truck bed.


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