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Author Topic: Miss Moose and I got our prius  (Read 7593 times)

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Miss Moose and I got our prius
« on: January 10, 2007, 11:19:24 AM »
Hello everyone Miss Moose and I got our prius last Tuesday and so far we are very happy with the car. Our average mpg is 46 making our 590 mile per week much more affordable.
 
Funny thing happened at a gas station during our first fill up. Some fella walked up to me with a mean look on his face. He called me a tree hugger and a bad person for the economy and walked off. I wish I had pictures of my sawmill to toss at him.
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2007, 11:28:44 AM »
Must have been an unemployed logger. 590 miles a week is a lot of driving and gas.
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2007, 11:43:37 AM »
the wife and I have been driving 118 miles a day to and from work for 15 years now. We where spending around 240.00 plus per month for gas.
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 12:44:14 PM »
Thank you for helping solve global warming  :)
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 01:39:26 PM »
That's darn good mileage Sam....but about this global warming thing, could you maybe burn some coal or something. I'm getting to like 40's in January. ;D

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 01:41:23 PM »
You cannot please everyone all the time. ::)

Or so I have been told. ;)

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 01:52:48 PM »
 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 03:22:03 PM »
Congrats on your new Prius - lots of luck and long life.

A couple two years back a mechanic friend talked me into a VW TDI diesel. I ended up getting an '01 Jetta in 3/05 for driving around town. After almost two years I'm glad he talked me into it. I've been getting low to mid 40's around town and mid to 50's to 60 iffen I follow the speed limit and low 50's iffen I follow traffic on the interstate. It's good enough to keep up with traffic and I can understand the diesel pretty much. ( and we won't talk about the pick up's mpg - its what made me look for the car to begin with )

Only regret I hear is that in Europe the diesels get better ( I hear they've got Volvo wagons that can squeak out 60 or Accords ( ? ) that squeak out low 70's on the highways and Audi blew everyone off with TDI's at Sebring and LeMans - if you're interested in racing diesels ). So what I want know is why the oil companies and car companies can't do that for us in the US of A ?

Oh Well . . .

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2007, 03:49:53 PM »

 Honda and others to introduce Diesels in the USA in 2008. Ultra low sulphur has thrown a curve, but, use BIO-DIESEL . It's better  8) 8)
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 05:02:33 PM »
North Americans have not bought enough diesel cars to keep the automakers interested. In Europe and Asia, gasoline has been prohibitively expensive compared to diesel, unlike here, and the perception has been that diesel cars are expensive, noisy, smelly and underpowered.
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2007, 05:10:05 PM »
Filled up the Forester this morning.

AU$1.32 per litre for 95RON, Diesel was AUD$1.22

Current exchange is about 79c US or 94c CAD to the AUD.

I see a diesel powered vehicle in the crystal ball.

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2007, 05:20:58 PM »
Auto makers haven't produced enough diesel powered cars to interest North Americans.

Most of the public has shied away from vehicles that are more expensive up front, more expensive to maintain (they break), more expensive to insure and you have to plan fuel stops.  It's only now that stations are installing diesel pumps and a station with a dozen pumps may have only one diesel nozzle.

If manufacturers want to sell diesel engines, they need to make them more attractive than gasoline engines.  It's not all about the cost of fuel, it's about the total cost of transportation.  That is one of the reasons that the alternate fuel vehicles are having a hard start.

When you add the cost of a diesel engine to the fact that Diesel fuel in the USA has surpassed Hi-test gasoline in cost, it's a wonder that some of the OTR trucks haven't gone back to gasoline.
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2007, 05:49:34 PM »
Tom. Spot on.

We have access to diesel vehicles from virtually all of the Asian and European manufacturers in the passenger and commercial vehicle classes. Yes they are usually a little more expensive to purchase but will usually have a much higher return on the life of the engine. As a response to the market there is a much greater availability of diesel at the average service station. The usual might be for example 4 pumps each with 3 ULP options plus at least one LPG and one diesel pump. As a minimum. The Prius and similiar technology has made a small impact into the market but the purchase cost is a real burden..much greater than an equivalent capacity passenger vehicle in diesel or even a ULP variant with LPG fitted.
LPG has become so prevalent that both GM and Ford offer it as a factory fuel option on the larger ULP engined passenger vehicles. It is very popular with fleet and taxi operators.. especially at AUD32c a litre. Bear in mind that you use about 40% more LPG that ULP.

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2007, 07:17:15 PM »
I was in a mall in Maine a couple weeks ago and in the windows of a RAV4 were signs that said "NO PART OF THIS VEHICLE WAS MADE IN THE USA" There was another message that stated that those signs could not be removed until sold. I've never seen that on foreign vehicles sold in Canada. I got a brand new RAV4 similar to the one in the mall.

I'm thinking Modat, that this was behind the motivation of the angry by-stander in the filling station.  :P

Pre-commercial thinning pays off. :)

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2007, 10:41:07 PM »
Tom - you hit the nail on the head.  Fortunately more stations are installing diesel pumps, but it can still be a chore to find it - especially when traveling.

Also, the stations don't always keep the diesel pumps / nozzles / hoses / driveways clean, and that is also a turn-off for many consumers.

I for one can't wait for the newer, small diesels to hit the US market.  But I'd like to see the manufacturers make them competitely priced.  It's hard to imagine that the productions costs are as much greater for a diesel as the manufacturers charge (at least for my 6 liter Ford trucks).

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2007, 10:56:30 PM »
 Here it aint hard to find deisel , most all of the gas stations will have a deisel pump , lots of deisel pick-ups around .
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2007, 02:58:19 AM »
Same here...  I go where the big rigs fill up but park on the car side of the building.

My reasoning is that particular station is only 2-3 years old so the tanks are in good shape, the big boys keep the supply fresh, and by filling up on the car side, I don't slow the big boys down and I can take as long as I want. (within reason)

One of my customers has a TDI jetta and regularly gets mid 50's on his 2 hour round trip commute.  I want one... 
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2007, 05:25:08 AM »
Most every station here has diesel as well. I've been in some areas in Canada where the pumps were all diesel, no gas. ;)

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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2007, 08:22:09 AM »
If I could have found a deisel truck that was about the size as a s10 or ranger I would have bought one. Personally I find a truck of any size more useful than a car but even my 4.3l v6 s10 is too expensive to drive to work every day.

I may have to start driving it anyway though, mandy doesn't like letting me drive the prius. She considers it her car  :D
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Re: Miss Moose and I got our prius
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2007, 05:24:19 PM »
Speaking of low sulpher diesel, I was the station this morning filling up with gas, next to me was a diesel pump that has something to do with low sulpher diesel should not be used in 2007 model vehicles or later.  Whats up with this?


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