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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2007, 05:48:48 PM »

Living out west I have never seen a sugar maple.
I have heard that you can tap a Birch. How do you know when it is time? How deep a hole and how do you plug it afterwards to keep bugs out?

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-5 C nights and +5 in day time, freeze thaw cycles. Sugar maple wood fibres apparently are unique as the flow of sap for syrup production is a different process than that during the growing season, since there are no leaves and the ground is frozen for the most part.
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2007, 07:50:12 PM »
I'm about to experience that one first hand.  Mrs. Captain is demanding an arch purchase THIS WEEK.  20 taps produced over 15 gallons today....

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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2007, 08:08:27 PM »
What Captain forgot to mention is that after trying to boil all day on a gas grill propane burner the sap failed to get up to 200 deg. F. fire_smiley  As I type this at 8:00 I am trying to finish it off. 

Does anyone know if you can stop the boiling and start again the next day.....

Our son was hoping for fresh maple syrup on his pancakes tomorrow morning   ;D  Guess again.....
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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2007, 08:31:43 PM »
I don't foresee any trouble in doing that. It's not like making fudge. ;D At least if it has boiled it's been sterilized and won't sour.
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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2007, 10:24:19 PM »
There will be some grade loss from reheating, but it will be minimal.  If you are boiling in a pot you are probably not making fancy anyway. ;)

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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2007, 11:05:23 PM »
Well it is now 11:pm and I have finally finished 8)!!  Pancakes for the boy tomorrow!!! 

By the way Will for pan boiled the syrup looks pretty darned fancy to me.  I bet we could compete with the big dogs... not in quantity (ended up with 8oz.) but in quality!! 

What is the best way to filter the finished syrup?  We put a coffee filter over the mouth of a mason jar but the process was extremely slow.  We did not however get any sugar sand only a couple of small bugs that flew in there for the final taste test.
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2007, 11:56:04 PM »
Sawdust, I made some of the best DanGed syrup one could ever try and Yup it was from white birch trees.  Look it up on Google and you'll find that it is worth a better fortune than that of the maple variety.  I am not sugaring this year due to getting ready to move along with the project I got going in the garage.  I am keeping rather busy without it.  The doctors tell me  to take it easy with my back and that as far as they are concerned I am still doing to much.  But a guy has gotta do what a guy has gotta do. 

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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2007, 12:49:28 AM »

I have a few big birch out at Pigeon Lake, I will go take a shot at bleeding them later in the week. I will have to build myself a couple spouts.

time to search google.

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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2007, 07:18:41 AM »
Black birch or yellow birch would make some interesting syrup I bet, with a mint taste.  I got a great big old bruiser of a yellow birch on the woodlot, but I'd hate to spoil the veneer in it. ;D
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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2007, 09:56:05 AM »
Eating pancakes with syrup that you boiled from your own trees:  Priceless ;D

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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2007, 09:01:47 PM »
Sap started to run on ol PEI today and you fellows talkin about it for the last couple of days got me all  motivated an all so I started tappin  but I have a felling there is somthin wrong wit my technique (maybe I need more trees!) ::)
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« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2007, 09:07:52 PM »
Hah!!!! I finally get to see what a pickeroon is used for!!! ;D

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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2007, 09:19:23 PM »

Ahve had willows squirt up from the stump. I should bring a pan to catch it in!

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« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2007, 01:26:46 PM »
I don't know about the flavor but willow syrup should be good for you. Its full of that ASA(I'm not even gonna try to spell it) you find in Aspirins.  :D  :P

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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2007, 02:27:34 PM »
Aspen has it also, since they belong to the family of willows Salicaceae = acetylsalicylic acid, a derivative salicylic acid

I also recall it in the bark of Viburnum trilobum, especially the root bark.
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« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2007, 07:01:50 PM »
I made 8 1/4 gal of syrup last weekend. I got somewhere around 225 taps between buckets and pipeline. Boy is gooood. Oh yea I did hear something along the the lines of the D word but I was busy trying not to spill any buckets and had to let go in one ear and out the other. I did get tired of cooking my dinner at midnight tho.

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Re: The True Cost of Making Maple Syrup
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2007, 06:21:39 PM »
You can tap birch. Folks up in Alaska have been doing it for a long time. You would do it just like a maple but the sugar concentration is lower something like 80:1 vs 30-40:1 for maple syrup. I haven't tapped birch myself since I'm too far south for it but the taste is supposed to be very good and in real high demand from certain gourmet chefs. Don't fill in the hole. Just let the wound heal over. It'll do that pretty quick once the tree starts growing in the spring.
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« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2007, 11:00:16 PM »


What is the best way to filter the finished syrup?  We put a coffee filter over the mouth of a mason jar but the process was extremely slow.  We did not however get any sugar sand only a couple of small bugs that flew in there for the final taste test.

I have used coffee filters for many years. If you try to use them for finished syrup, you will wait forever for it to flow through the filter. I try to filter the syrup when it is still at least twice its final volume. At this point it is much thinner than it will be and flows through the filter much more easily. Keeping it hot will also help as it thickens up as it cools. After filtering, I boil it down to finish. Little or no additional sugar sand appears.
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2007, 07:04:20 AM »
The 8.25 gallons of syrup I made took 530 gallons of sap to make. Thats 64 to 1 ratio I have no red maples taped if I did that ratio would be even higher. The ratio will change lower as the season goes on the sap picks up more sugar as it goes up and down in the tree.

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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2007, 08:51:40 AM »
I've been running sap from 4 trees for about a month now.  Had taps in two small straight trees and two big gnarly ones.  The 2 small ones were pumping out about a galllon a day on good days and the big trees weren't dripping at all.  I was just about to pull the taps on the big ones, but two days ago they started pouring out syrup.  One tree is literally pouring, not dripping sap.  I boil in my kitchen with a ceiling fan and have not had problems with moisture.  I think my ratio is pretty close to 30:1.  I just use a fine cloth of any kind to strain it, but its just for my own pancakes, so I'm not  picky.  The best is to boil it down to honey thickness and put it on toast.

Don't ask my wife about the syrup, especially the batch that I forgot about and burnt to a crisp.  I just now got rid of the burnt sugar smell in the house.


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