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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2002, 05:29:58 PM »
Welcome, Rob. I'm glad you brought this thread to the top, as I hadn't seen it before.  I'm not a big hunter, or a gun nut, but I do hunt occasionally, and own several hunting and defense weapons.
I will say, however, that, when used irresponsibly, even the lightest of loads can cause a lot of damage to power lines and phone cables. A power line consists of more than just the wire, itself, and while a #8 may not actually bring down the wire, it will damage insulators and fuses, etc. Aerial phone cables are made up of thousands of tiny wires encased in a plastic sheath. Damage from bird hunters is very common, and quite expensive to repair.
I'm not saying you shouldn't hunt doves, just watch out for the hardware. :)
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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2002, 05:30:23 PM »
Hey Rob,
Yep, you sure went way back for that one.  But, that's ok, we all do the same thing.  Some of those old threads are worth bringing back and, heck, sometimes those old subjects are still fresh for the picking.   Welcome, ya heah?

At 8 years old, I've shot dove from power lines and phone lines with my 410 and #8's.  Never heard of a damaged line from it.  All the lines were on our place and the lights always stayed on.   Now if a deer had been running down the line from pole to pole and I unloaded on him with a Semi-automatic 30-06, there is a good chance that if I hit a line, there would have been line problems.  

As I got older, shooting dove from the power line became less of a challenge and the "sport": took over my want to take meat home.  I have bought many a cadillac for Remington shot gun shell manufacturers.  :D :D  What birds I've eaten, while delicious, shouldn't be compared with the price of beef at the grocery store.

Dove are good, the sport is fun, the comraderie is special and the father-son time is of the highest quality.  If your lucky, you get supper too. ;D

Every state should have a Dove season.  It's one of the greatest excuses for young and old to get together, socialize and make a lot of noise.
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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2002, 05:49:26 PM »
I`ve repaired many shotgun blasts to phone cables.
Most of the cables I work on run for many miles and it can take awhile to locate  shotgun pellets or damage from a single bullet.
Please don`t shoot birds on the wires as it affects service and cuts into my coffee breaks.  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2002, 06:42:49 PM »
OK! ;D
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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2002, 09:21:51 PM »
Hey Kevin, I didn't know you were a telephonical type guy, too!  You still slicin' cable?  I'm a Carrier and Special Services Tech in Tallahassee. Spent 30 years in Central Office, and Operations Center, and the last 2 1/2 yrs here. Lovin' it. It kept me from retiring too early.
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2002, 05:12:40 AM »
Dan, I`m a cable repair tech for Bell Canada.
I work in and around town and have about 200km of cable,carrier and fiber to maintain northward along the trans Canada two track.
It`s a little on the buggy side up here right now and if that doesn`t frost your tropicals we`ve got bears up to our ying yangs.

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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2002, 04:50:54 PM »
Well, I've learned something new. I figured that phone and power lines would be tougher than that. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I condone shooting at wires. I'd certainly never heard of it being a problem. While I have been tempted a time or two to try and take some doves off a line, I never have and never would.

Thanks for the welcome!
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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2002, 07:01:26 PM »
I think the whole wire issue is a red herring. Shooting doves on wires is like shooting upland game birds before they fly. Hunters who do that in the presense of others are laughed at. The sport is to catch them on the wing. We all know that some hunters will do anything to bag their prey, but other hunters shouldn't have to forego their hunts just because some spoilsports give them a bad name.

As for doves eating at bird feeders, if you watch them long enough, you see that they can be just as ornery as any other bird. Doves are just birds and when we let emotions decide policy, we always lose.
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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2002, 07:31:53 PM »
I don't think that people shooting sitting birds is the problem. Sometimes, the birds fly near the wires and cables, causing the hunters to accidently perforate said conveyors of power and conversation. All I'm saying is that you should be careful, and try not to hit them. :)
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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2002, 08:08:18 PM »
But that's just DanG good common sense. The same could happen with pheasants and ducks, but they don't roost on wires. The decision on whether to have dove hunting or not should be based on the assumption that the society should guarantee the individual liberty if an overwhelming societal need doesn't exist. The benefits of allowing dove hunting seem to overwhelm the negative effects.

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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2002, 08:17:52 PM »
On the subject of birds, what`s a good non lethal woodpecker deterrent?

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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2002, 09:07:41 PM »
Clear cutting? ;D
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« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2002, 10:23:55 PM »
Kevin, check a few of these for ideas:

www.critterridders.com/birdrepellents.htm
www.birdbarrier/Site%20Pages/ScareProducts.htm
www.paulnoll.com/bird-feeder-Woodpecker.html
www.users.qwest.net/~lhutchins/flickerfacts.htm


I basically did a search for 'woodpecker deterrent'.  There are a lot of sites on this subject :P
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2002, 05:06:51 AM »
Will do, thanks C.

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Re: Mourning Doves
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2002, 03:16:17 PM »
A good dove shoot is a quality hunting experience and just as sporting as you care to make it.  What isn't a good or sporting dove hunt (and probably illegal to boot)?  Shooting them off your bird feeder (or baited field) or off a powerline.  You can't legislate ethics.

As for eat-ability, they're pretty tasty and, as one of my old wildlife professors said, "They're bigger than a shrimp."

Wish there was a season in NY.  I miss South Carolina!  
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