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Try These
« on: July 11, 2001, 02:55:52 PM »
I was out in the field yesterday and took a couple of shots of fairly common forest plants.
I've posted them at http://ca.photos.yahoo.com/bracke_bill
if you get there click on my photos to enlarge the thumbnails just click on them.
I don't imagine it will take you too long to id them.

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Re: Try These
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2001, 04:34:39 PM »
   1st one might be water hemlock or wild parsnip (poisonous), and I think the 2nd one is gooseberry.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2001, 05:51:35 PM »
Sorry LW
The berries on the first one are supposedly edible once they are ripe. Gooseberries are usually green and somewhat transparent.
But those were good suggestions.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2001, 06:30:44 PM »
Of the 3 things I found that the first pix might be I'm guessing snakeroot.  I hate to shotgun it but I've got some more if that's not it. ;D

Don't have a clue on the 2nd with the red berries yet.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2001, 06:35:35 PM »
If folks haven't nailed them down by morning, I'll post a few hints.
I'm not sure of the range on these plants so that maybe causing problems as well.
That being said, it would be something if KiwiCharlie nailed them down.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2001, 11:24:36 PM »
G'day Bill,

I had a look at the photos, and the first picture looks surprisingly like what I would call "Carrotweed" down here.  Structure is very similar, and colouring too.
However, your Common Ragweed, also known as Carrotweed, looks nothing like the Carrotweed I know!!
Hemlock is also known as Carrotweed....

So... my guess is Parsley Dropwort (Oenanthe pimpinelloides), a member of the Apiaceae family, known locally as Carrotweed.  This is the Kiwi plant, whether its the same as your one I have no idea!, but it sure looks like it.

The berry photo is foreign (!) to me though.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2001, 05:28:14 AM »
Hints for the plants

Plant 1:Perennial; 20-90 cm tall; erect;leafy; stem has sharp, slender spines near base;from stout underground stem
Found in sandy or rocky areaa;clearings or open forest
Roots and bark said to have been used as a historic remedy for kidney and urinary problems.

Plant 2
Distinctive skunk like odor when crushed

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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2001, 01:20:16 PM »
What's a cm Bill? :D
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2001, 02:45:15 PM »
the opposite to no cm?? :D
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2001, 03:01:26 PM »
 :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2001, 02:10:27 PM »
The second one with the berries looks like a vine growing up into a Spruce tree. Hmmm
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2001, 05:30:38 AM »
Ok
You guys have all been pretty close to nailing these down.

Plant 1 is known as Bristly Sarsaparilla (Aralie Hispide) also known as dwarf-elder or wild-elder.

Plant 2 is known as Skunk Currant(Gadelllier Glanduleux). It is a member of the gooseberry family, but the fruit is said to have a disagreeable taste.

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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2001, 11:26:15 AM »
Hey Bill,

Is the Bristly Sarsparilla any kin to the "drink" that was common before Root Beer took over?

Does Skunk Currant have any uses?  Do animals eat it or is it to pungent even for them?
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2001, 02:40:12 PM »
Hey Bill,

I've been looking all over the place for a write-up o these two plants and can't find anything anywhere.

Have you any suggestions for a place to look? :-[
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2001, 05:15:06 AM »
I can give you what information I have, I'm using a manual called Forest Plants of Northeastern Ontario by Karen Legasy, I'm not sure if copies are still available, the other manual I use is called a Field Guide to Forest Ecosystems of Nothern Ontario put out by the Northeast Science and Technology Unit of the MNR.
So if you just need a quick blurb let me know and I'll try and put something together for you.
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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2001, 06:56:25 AM »
Just a quick blurb.

I am interested in all of these plants and a short synopsis of its local folklore would be interesting to later readers of the thread I would think.

I am finding that there are so many plants that have been touted to have medicinal features throughout the years.  I am looking for one that produces Gold Apples so I can buy one of those big diesel pusher RV's. :D
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2001, 05:29:25 AM »
I've added some new plant photos to my album. they should be fairly easy to identify.
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Re: Try These
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2001, 06:37:10 AM »
Bill,

#5 looks like low bush blueberry.  I've eaten about 2 tons of them off of the place down here.  Is that close or do I need to go to the books when I look for the the others?  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2001, 09:40:05 AM »
No need to look further low bush blueberry is what I would have called it.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2001, 08:40:12 PM »
#3 looks like a coreopsis of some sort and 4 looks familiar but I can't place it or find it.  I guess I need a hint.
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