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Re: Fuel oil prices
« Reply #80 on: November 20, 2007, 05:59:04 PM »
Offroad diesel was 3.439 here a couple hours ago.  Got orders for 12 more FC of firewood today
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Re: Fuel oil prices
« Reply #81 on: November 20, 2007, 06:02:11 PM »
I found the Washington Post article.  Here's the link:
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« Reply #82 on: November 20, 2007, 08:12:47 PM »
Thanks for the link.  The show I saw was NOVA.  I found the quote from the show where I got the 20% and the 30%.

It was the narrator talking to Herman Scheer, a member of the German Parliment. In 2000, Germany instituted a National Renewable Energy Act which requires Germany to produce 20% of its energy from renewable sources by 2020.  The detractors said the goal is impossible, but Scheer says they are ahead of schedule and could reach 30% by 2020.

The program also stated that the Germans are producing about 1 million solar cells each week, and have created 170,000 jobs.

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« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2007, 01:11:38 AM »
A lot of petroleum provides feedstock for chemical and plastic companies. The amount of waste is huge.

Example: I happen to like Pental type automatic pencils. When these first came out, I could buy 30 leads in a small cardboard tube. Just recently I bought some at the local stationary store -- 12 leads in a thick plastic container that could easily hold 100 leads. I wasn't buying leads I was buying the container -- but there were no alternatives. Time to go back to wooden pencils and old fashioned pencil sharpeners.

A lot of items are sold in big, bulky plastic blister packs. You practically need a chainsaw to open some of those packages. Why do they package things that way instead of in a compact cardboard box? A retailer showed me some promotional material from his distributer. The blister packs are bulky and hard to open in order to discourage shoplifting.

Using plastic this way is a terrible waste of valuable liquid fuel. There are plenty of alternatives. Cardboard containers, cellophane bags and wrappers (it's made from cellulose doncha know), glass bottles for example.

This isn't going to change real soon unless the government(s) start restricting the inappropriate use of petrochemicals. We try to do our part. Barb's crocheted a bunch of string bags (out of cotton) to hold produce purchases (instead of using the store's plastic bags. We've been using canvas shopping bags for more than 20 years. Given a choice, I'll buy drinks in glass or aluminum containers rather than plastic. These are just a few ways to reduce indirect oil consumption.
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Re: Fuel oil prices
« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2007, 07:29:48 AM »
Here is an article released by Reuters yesterday about the Canadain oil reserves.


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